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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 3
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Originally Posted by ianch99
Sunak has messed up big time. Leaving the D-Day commemorations early to do a campaign interview shows how out of touch he and his team are.
BBC are now reporting that he is making a grovelling apology for leaving early.
I'm just baffled by such a decision and hope the veterans don't feel too let down by their country's leader.
It clearly shows Sunak's disconnect to the British public because until now I couldn't think of anyone who would a) want to skip such a ceremony b) think doing so wouldn't reflect badly on them with their friends, family and in this instance, the electorate.
Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 3
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
I'm just baffled by such a decision and hope the veterans don't feel too let down by their country's leader.
It clearly shows Sunak's disconnect to the British public because until now I couldn't think of anyone who would a) want to skip such a ceremony b) think doing so wouldn't reflect badly on them with their friends, family and in this instance, the electorate.
Luckily for Sunak, the biggest UK Army camp (Catterick) in the world isn't in his constituency...
Oh, wait....
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 3
What’s quite mad is this was a day Rishi was getting for free. No difficult election questions. Gets to be a statesman while Starmer hangs around pretending. Maybe sell some of his Dad’s tools to Zelensky.
Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 3
Just walking past Downing Street as you do and I came across Sunak's Friday night karaoke lyrics blowing down the road. I may have tweaked them slightly
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All the seas are brown (all the seas are brown)
And my prospects grey (and my prospects grey)
I've been for a walk (I've been for a walk)
Disrespecting D-Day (Disrespecting D-Day)
I'd be safe and warm (I'd be safe and warm)
If I was in LA (if I was in LA)
California dreamin' (California dreamin')
Disrespecting D-Day
Stopped into a studio
I passed along the way
Well, I sat down in a chair (sat down in a chair)
And I lied away (and I lied away)
All the voters know I’ve lost
They know I'm going away (know I'm going away)
California dreamin' (California dreamin')
Disrespecting D-Day
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 3
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Originally Posted by ianch99
Slightly off topic (sorry) but a contrast on how a different national Leader behaves:
One of the best clips I saw on the news yesterday. Those who had to shed their blood to push totalitarianism back because it was allowed to spread too far across Europe before anyone seriously woke up to the threat … they see Ukraine, its leader and its people, and they know, and they understand.
Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 3
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One of the best clips I saw on the news yesterday. Those who had to shed their blood to push totalitarianism back because it was allowed to spread too far across Europe before anyone seriously woke up to the threat … they see Ukraine, its leader and its people, and they know, and they understand.
Yes, I so agree. So much relevance for today ...
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 3
And as regards the disgraceful Sunak, the ITV interview that was more important to him than showing due respect for those who fought and died in what is perhaps the single most important military engagement in history, won’t even air until Wednesday of next week. Which means when it comes around, we will all be talking about this again.
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One of the best clips I saw on the news yesterday. Those who had to shed their blood to push totalitarianism back because it was allowed to spread too far across Europe before anyone seriously woke up to the threat … they see Ukraine, its leader and its people, and they know, and they understand.
This isn't the topic for it really but across Europe there is a rising sympathy for totalitarianism amongst the young. It's telling that in France Le Pen's weakest demographic is those who remembered the Nazis and Vichy France. It's a worry then this generation leaves entirely.
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Just walking past Downing Street as you do and I came across Sunak's Friday night karaoke lyrics blowing down the road. I may have tweaked them slightly
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 3
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1. Yes, I’m concerned for the apparent Parkinsonian symptoms Diane Abbot is exhibiting. I have no doubt she is also aware, and is likely taking medical advice. However, if she is happy to continue to pursue a political career while those symptoms are not debilitating, that’s up to her. Her hard left politics concern me, but TBH she is on the lunatic fringe of the Labour Party, whereas hard right politics is very much mainstream in the current Tory party and that is of far greater concern to me.
2. Angela Rayner has been investigated by the police and other authorities and is facing no further action. Not sure what your problem is?
3. The Senedd is a glorified county council and attracts politicians of that calibre. Its Labour membership, in particular, pretty much opted out of the New Labour project of the late 90s and early 2000s and as a result are prone to making lumbering, centralising, unreconstructed lefty errors with now very obvious consequences for the likes of the NHS in Wales. However, until voters in Wales lose their widespread compulsion to vote for anything in a red rosette regardless of their competence, they will continue to get the government they deserve.
4. Starmer is, I think, capable of quick thinking, but his instincts are to stop and chew things over rather than respond quickly. Watch back the infamous £2,000 claim in the ITV debate and you can visibly see Starmer thinking to himself, “Hang on, that’s not right, it’s so obviously not right there must be some reason I’ve not spotted for him to be even saying that … there could be a trap here, let me think it through.” As the debate unfolded over the subsequent 24 hours of course it became clear it was just a brazen lie designed to be so epic in scale that we all stop and assume it can’t be a lie, there must be some truth to it. If that’s how the Tories are going to conduct the next 4 weeks of campaigning, then Starmer is going to have to start trusting that he knows what he’s offering the electorate and act quickly to counteract misinformation about it.
3 )and yet sir kier has confidence in them , is he stupid, lying or a plain con artist
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 3
He’s exercising a form of collective responsibility. His private thoughts on Welsh Labour would probably be quite illuminating. Also, vis a vis Tory claims that what Welsh Labour is doing to the NHS in Wales now is an indication of what UK Labour would do to the NHS in England after the election, it’s worth pointing out that Welsh Labour was running the Cardiff clown car last time there was a UK Labour government, and there was a notable disparity in outcomes between England and Wales then, too. Of course Labour can’t draw attention to that without implicitly slagging off the Welsh branch of the party, so they’re a bit stuck.
Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 3
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Originally Posted by Chris
He’s exercising a form of collective responsibility. His private thoughts on Welsh Labour would probably be quite illuminating. Also, vis a vis Tory claims that what Welsh Labour is doing to the NHS in Wales now is an indication of what UK Labour would do to the NHS in England after the election, it’s worth pointing out that Welsh Labour was running the Cardiff clown car last time there was a UK Labour government, and there was a notable disparity in outcomes between England and Wales then, too. Of course Labour can’t draw attention to that without implicitly slagging off the Welsh branch of the party, so they’re a bit stuck.
Labour do have a bit of a habit of bringing down waiting lists after a Tory government…
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