20-08-2008, 21:14
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Re: Football : Season 08/09
Barwick out...
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FA politics?
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20-08-2008, 23:01
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Re: Football : Season 08/09
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That has to be one of the weirdest/shock signings ever lol
O'Shea to Chelsea next??
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20-08-2008, 23:22
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Re: good season for everton
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I fancy Everton to win some thing this season possible FA cup
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You're joking right? Everton have the smallest squad in the premier league at the moment and have bought absolutely nobody so far, yet let 3 players go. One or two injuries and they've had it!
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21-08-2008, 08:53
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Re: Football : Season 08/09
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That has to be one of the weirdest/shock signings ever lol
O'Shea to Chelsea next??
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Ronaldo to Chelsea
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21-08-2008, 09:56
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Re: Football : Season 08/09
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I'm bookmarking this page ready for when Arsenal win something (ie when BBking will show his face in a football thread again)
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26-08-2008, 20:39
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Re: Football : Season 08/09
Dimitar Berbatov's agent is in London for crisis talks as the player attempts to force a move to Manchester United from Tottenham, BBC Sport understands.
The London club are threatening to let Berbatov "rot in the reserves", according to reports
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I remember people in the media, and on this site as well, slateing Ferguson when reports came out saying that Ronaldo would be left in the reserves rather than be sold to Madrid. I wonder if they will come out now and call Ramos and Levy "spiteful" and a "bully" like they did with Ferguson, i highly doubt it.
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26-08-2008, 22:12
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Re: Football : Season 08/09
Due to player contracts these days they can't let a player "rot in the reserves" as most contracts have a minimum "first team appearances" set in them. Means that if the club doesn;t meet the minimum then the player can leave due to breach of contract.
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26-08-2008, 22:25
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Re: Football : Season 08/09
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Due to player contracts these days they can't let a player "rot in the reserves" as most contracts have a minimum "first team appearances" set in them. Means that if the club doesn;t meet the minimum then the player can leave due to breach of contract.
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It's not a clause in their contracts, it's a FIFA regulation which states...
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An established professional who has, in the course of the season, appeared in fewer than ten per cent of the official matches in which his club has been involved may terminate his contract prematurely on the ground of sporting just cause. Due consideration shall be given to the player’s circumstances in the appraisal of such cases. The existence of a sporting just cause shall be established on a case by-case basis. In such a case, sporting sanctions shall not be imposed, though compensation may be payable. A professional may only terminate his contract on this basis in the 15 days following the last official match of the season of the club with which he is registered.
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So they could let him "rot in the reserves" for a whole season
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28-08-2008, 11:56
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Re: Football : Season 08/09
Peter Kenyon believes Andriy Shevchenko provided value for money during his time at Chelsea
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What has Kenyon been smoking?
He cost £30million and scored 9 goals, so each goal he scored cost the club about £3.4million. Yeah, great value for money
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28-08-2008, 19:00
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Re: Football : Season 08/09
Man Utd to face Celtic in the Champions League can't wait to see the 2 games
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28-08-2008, 20:39
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Re: Football : Season 08/09
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Man Utd to face Celtic in the Champions League can't wait to see the 2 games
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That groaning sound you might hear is the sound of Greater Manchester Police at the thought of another Glaswegian invasion.
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28-08-2008, 21:18
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Re: Football : Season 08/09
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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK
Dimitar Berbatov's agent is in London for crisis talks as the player attempts to force a move to Manchester United from Tottenham, BBC Sport understands.
The London club are threatening to let Berbatov "rot in the reserves", according to reports
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I remember people in the media, and on this site as well, slateing Ferguson when reports came out saying that Ronaldo would be left in the reserves rather than be sold to Madrid. I wonder if they will come out now and call Ramos and Levy "spiteful" and a "bully" like they did with Ferguson, i highly doubt it.
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If it were a like-for-like situation then I would agree with you. Levy isn't exactly well loved amongst the Spurs fan community as he was smirking in the stand whilst firing our much loved, respected, and arguably most successful manager in decades (2 points/1 place from CL place beats Carling Cup in most people's minds), by text message, mid-match, after weeks of undermining his position. He's more interested in counting Joe Lewis's beans than improving Spurs as a club.
However, its not the same. He wasn't dropped as punishment for requesting a transfer, he was dropped because He requested not to play and was fined a week's wages for it. Also noone on the team wants to play with him ( 1, 2.) For players to turn on another player like that, is quite rare and says quite a lot about how Berbatov must be behaving behind closed doors.
Also, United didn't want to sell Ronaldo out of spite. Real were willing to pay, or do, anything to secure him. We are happy to grant Berbatov his transfer. Ramos and Poyet have also made it clear in interviews that they are also willing to reverse that should Berbatov actually want to play for us. However, it is not unreasonable to request that your lot cough up a sensible amount of money for him for him first. If Tevez is worth £32m, then Berbatov is worth more than £20m. Also another stumbling block is that Ferguson won't apologise for what he's done wrong. Again, not an unreasonable request when Ferguson soley is the cause of his unsettlement in the first place.
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Also, Spurs are flying out to Monaco to meet with United and thrash out a last minute deal. Again, that's far from the angle that Levy is trying to ruin Berbatov's career out of spite, like the Glazers and Ferguson was happy to do.
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28-08-2008, 21:57
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Re: Football : Season 08/09
First off, Ronaldo was never dropped and isn't going to be dropped where as Berbatov has been dropped. Who's ruining who's career? Ramos has come out saying that he wasn't in the right frame of mind to play, i'm not sure if thats the same as him refusing to play.
As for Ferguson apologising, what for? The FA have had these so called years of documents from Spurs showing his apparent wrong doings for about a month now and we've heard nothing.
I think £20million is about fair for a player who's apparently handed in a transfer request, playing in the reserves and doesn't want to play for the club they are at and players at that club don't want him there. If he isn't sold in this transfer window and this all continues i think Spurs would be extremely happy if they got £20million for him rather than £30million they are demanding now.
By the sounds of it Spurs are going out to Monaco to get Arshavin rather than sell Berbatov going by this http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/7586497.stm
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29-08-2008, 06:57
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Re: Football : Season 08/09
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That groaning sound you might hear is the sound of Greater Manchester Police at the thought of another Glaswegian invasion.
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Why? The green side of Glasgow have always behaved themselves when they have been to Manchester before. It's just the blue side who don't
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