Coronavirus

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by jfman

I suppose the flip side to that question is what have Astrazenica got against being open and transparent about their data.

Much of this would have been avoided had they not issued the haphazard press release the day after Pfizer claiming 62/70/90% efficacy. Other selective studies have been pulled out at random to come out with other figures.

A 70% efficacy vaccine isn't a bad vaccine. But rather than focus on the positives of availability, cost and relative ease of distribution chains there has been a focus on aiming for a 90% figure.

In other news I got my first dose today.

Good stuff, I'm supposed to get my second jab early may, just wondering if they'll have enough vaccines to meet this date.

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Originally Posted by joglynne

Yup Hugh, twas me. Nice to know someone else who has been taking part.

Just in case anyone else would care to take part, here's a link to the app which also contains links to all the reports and updates that have been posted so far.

https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/the-2...eid=cf0968cd42

It honestly only takes a minute a day to fill in your current health level, and you can even add other people to your app.

Same here, I use the app every day, had it on my phone since it first came out.

[RichardCoulter]

Dr Xand (virologist) said on todays Morning Live (BBC1) that Matt Hancock put his hand out to shake his hand soon after the start of the pandemic. When Dr Xand politely declined to do so by saying that he was no longer shaking hands, Hancock said that it was ok because the virus didn't spread that way

The idiot in charge of our health thought he knew better than a virologist!

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Dr Xand (virologist) said on todays Morning Live (BBC1) that Matt Hancock put his hand out to shake his hand soon after the start of the pandemic. When Dr Xand politely declined to do so by saying that he was no longer shaking hands, Hancock said that it was ok because the virus didn't spread that way

The idiot in charge of our health thought he knew better than a virologist!

He's learnt since then and he expelled Merck from its partnership with Oxford in favour of AstraZeneca so we can forgive this old transgression. His PPE procurement is another matter, though...

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Originally Posted by Mad Max

Good stuff, I'm supposed to get my second jab early may, just wondering if they'll have enough vaccines to meet this date.

Yes, that's why they're reducing new recipients from Monday so they can use it for second doses for existing recipients.

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

He's learnt since then and he expelled Merck from its partnership with Oxford in favour of AstraZeneca so we can forgive this old transgression. His PPE procurement is another matter, though...

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Yes, that's why they're reducing new recipients from Monday so they can use it for second doses for existing recipients.

Ah good, thx for that, Andrew, didn't realise that they would do that.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

So European folk aren’t at risk despite a stalling vaccine rollout? It can only be one or the other, OB.

I eagerly await the review. The trailers for the bold Dom’s evidence have been good so far.

I'm not sure what you are getting at here, jfman, as you explain yourself in convoluted ways. How does your statement relate to what I said?

However, what I would say here is that the fact that EU countries are now facing a third wave demonstrates the futility of lockdowns. It also clarifies that vaccines are the only answer to this pandemic.

The only alternative is lockdown after lockdown after lockdown until herd immunity is achieved.

Which is what I have been saying all along.

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Originally Posted by Hom3r

Us Brits can strike back at the EU and boycott all EU countries for holiday.


Go to Iceland, Norway or Switzerland none of which are in the EU.

I've already imposed a ban on European wine and other EU products until they stop this nonsense. If enough people do the same, the EU will certainly notice.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I'm not sure what you are getting at here, jfman, as you explain yourself in convoluted ways. How does your statement relate to what I said?

However, what I would say here is that the fact that EU countries are now facing a third wave demonstrates the futility of lockdowns. It also clarifies that vaccines are the only answer to this pandemic.

The only alternative is lockdown after lockdown after lockdown until herd immunity is achieved.

Which is what I have been saying all along.

We’ve had our third wave, unless the contention is that the second one never really ended and ran from November right through to now.

Vaccines are the answer? I’m quite sure if I tried hard enough I’d find you scoffing at that idea around six months ago. So many contradictions I don’t even know where to start.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

<SNIP>

I've already imposed a ban on European wine and other EU products until they stop this nonsense. If enough people do the same, the EU will certainly notice.

The I hope you've backed this up by boycotting Aldi, OB!
See you in Waitrose?

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I've already imposed a ban on European wine and other EU products until they stop this nonsense. If enough people do the same, the EU will certainly notice.

Is that end products made in the EU, or products with (any/some) ingredients of EU origin, or products produced wholly in the UK but by companies of EU ownership, or by companies with ANY EU ownership or any combination of the above? I could go on but I think you'll get the point that it's looking like another oy your (rather pompous) unthought out statements that if you think about it would be pretty much impossible to stick to in these days international capitalism.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

The I hope you've backed this up by boycotting Aldi, OB!
See you in Waitrose?

I do love a romance !

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I've already imposed a ban on European wine and other EU products until they stop this nonsense. If enough people do the same, the EU will certainly notice.

Wow. I bet it’s a laugh a minute in your personal 1970s ITV sit com. Have you leafleted the neighbours to try to get them to join in? You could also try picketing the corner shop.

“Next on ITV4 it’s classic “Old Boy’s World,” and Malcolm’s decided to take a stand against the Common Market...”

Is Mrs Old Boy routinely described by the TV Times as “long suffering”?

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Chris

Wow. I bet it’s a laugh a minute in your personal 1970s ITV sit com. Have you leafleted the neighbours to try to get them to join in? You could also try picketing the corner shop.

“Next on ITV4 it’s classic “Old Boy’s World,” and Malcolm’s decided to take a stand against the Common Market...”

Is Mrs Old Boy routinely described by the TV Times as “long suffering”?

Tbh that sounds quite good. Send the script in. It would give 'On the Buses' some competition

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Tbh that sounds quite good. Send the script in. It would give 'On the Buses' some competition

More like mind your language or love thy neighbour

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

More like mind your language or love thy neighbour

True. "Currry and chips" was another classic. it starred a blacked up Spike Milligan as an Irishman of Pakistani heritage named Kevin O'Grady. It was cancelled before they were all broadcast...

Suspect we'll be told off soon for being off topic, but 70's sitcoms are more interesting than Covid .

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Chris

Wow. I bet it’s a laugh a minute in your personal 1970s ITV sit com. Have you leafleted the neighbours to try to get them to join in? You could also try picketing the corner shop.

“Next on ITV4 it’s classic “Old Boy’s World,” and Malcolm’s decided to take a stand against the Common Market...”

Is Mrs Old Boy routinely described by the TV Times as “long suffering”?

I'm not sure Old Boy would allow it to be shown on ailing linear TV.

Perhaps it could go straight to streaming on BritBox?

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

Is that end products made in the EU, or products with (any/some) ingredients of EU origin, or products produced wholly in the UK but by companies of EU ownership, or by companies with ANY EU ownership or any combination of the above? I could go on but I think you'll get the point that it's looking like another oy your (rather pompous) unthought out statements that if you think about it would be pretty much impossible to stick to in these days international capitalism.

VM's new software TV 360 is coded in the Netherlands, I believe, so Old Boy had better not upgrade to that software.

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

VM's new software TV 360 is coded in the Netherlands I believe so Old Boy had better not upgrade to the software.

And what's he going to do when the VM/O2 merger goes through, what with O2 being Spanish owned. Hope he's going to be true to his word and give his notice rather than send his money to the enemy every month. I won't hold my breath.