26-11-2021, 14:42
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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hahahaha ok notice how they did not stop them in French waters and take them. Deny the truth as much as it is convenient for you
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They also didn't assist them into the waters, therefore they did not 'escort' them anywhere. They acted more as neutral observers than anything else.
If you're going to be angry about something at least know what you're being angry about.
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26-11-2021, 14:44
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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They also didn't assist them into the waters, therefore they did not 'escort' them anywhere. They acted more as neutral observers than anything else.
If you're going to be angry about something at least know what you're being angry about.
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absolute rubbish. Neutral observers in French waters instead of doing something to stop them is escorting the out of French waters. Playful word tricks do not wash
Were they there ? yes
Were they making sure they were safe ? yes
is that escorting ? YES
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26-11-2021, 14:48
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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absolute rubbish. Neutral observers in French waters instead of doing something to stop them is escorting the out of French waters. Playful word tricks do not wash
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Not doing one thing does not automatically equate to doing something else. this is not Newton's third law.
Not everything is black and white, there's a whole myriad in terms of shades of grey.
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26-11-2021, 14:49
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Not doing one thing does not automatically equate to doing something else. this is not Newton's third law.
Not everything is black and white, there's a whole myriad in terms of shades of grey.
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They escorted them out of French waters and then left them in one of the videos.
You cannot see the wood for the trees, see I can say something cute too
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26-11-2021, 14:52
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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They escorted them out of French waters and then left them in one of the videos.
You cannot see the wood for the trees, see I can say something cute too
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So, the French police or border patrols walked next to them whilst the boat launched ? Or, they were in the sea with them as the boat left.
Can you provide the link to that video please?
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26-11-2021, 14:52
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Re: Britain outside the EU
already have
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26-11-2021, 14:54
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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already have
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Could you post it again please? I've not been able to check up much on here recently. so if you have the link to the video that shows it i would appreciate it, thank you.
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26-11-2021, 15:07
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Could you post it again please? I've not been able to check up much on here recently. so if you have the link to the video that shows it i would appreciate it, thank you.
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I will not post it again you have mentioned my video posts so surely you must have viewed them all ?? if not then how could you possibly had a reply? I will await your reply to this and if the answer is good enough I have another video ready to post that I have not already posted
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I will just throw this little taster video of French Police watching a boat leave and doing nothing. There was also a helicopter he mentioned. So yes the French are letting them cross and they are actively escorting them into British waters. You can argue the toss over the word escort but it is happening without any doubt at all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ghi_pN7Jj7w
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26-11-2021, 15:10
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Escort, to accompany (someone or something) somewhere as an escort.
The video appears to show them stood by and to make no attempt to stop the boat leaving.
Not the same thing.
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I cannot imagine why you let the French off the hook like this.
They don't want the migrants and will assist them to launch towards England.
Escort/schmescort - you are either extremely Francophile or still bitter about Brexit or both or plain unreasonable.
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26-11-2021, 15:13
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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I will not post it again you have mentioned my video posts so surely you must have viewed them all ?? if not then how could you possibly had a reply? I will await your reply to this and if the answer is good enough I have another video ready to post that I have not already posted
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No, I've seen you post that you've posted videos in the last page or so i think?
and I'm many pages back in the discussion, which is why i asked courteously if you could post the link. that's all.
The question that i would ask is that if the French police have allowed migrants to leave unchallenged vs how many have been prevented from leaving either at beaches or from in other parts ot the country?
In my opinion I don't believe that all of the French police or coastguard are stood there shouting 'Au revoir et bonne chance, voici un pain au chocolat' as they help them clamber onboard their boats.
A little perspective is called for, that's all
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26-11-2021, 15:15
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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I cannot imagine why you let the French off the hook like this.
They don't want the migrants and will assist them to launch towards England.
Escort/schmescort - you are either extremely Francophile or still bitter about Brexit or both or plain unreasonable.
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easier to be blinkered than to see the truth going on around them
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No, I've seen you post that you've posted videos in the last page or so i think?
and I'm many pages back in the discussion, which is why i asked courteously if you could post the link. that's all.
The question that i would ask is that if the French police have allowed migrants to leave unchallenged vs how many have been prevented from leaving either at beaches or from in other parts ot the country?
In my opinion I don't believe that all of the French police or coastguard are stood there shouting 'Au revoir et bonne chance, voici un pain au chocolat' as they help them clamber onboard their boats.
A little perspective is called for, that's all
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so you responded to videos of escorting saying they were not escorting without even watching the videos I posted???? what is that all about
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26-11-2021, 15:17
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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They escorted them out of French waters and then left them in one of the videos.
You cannot see the wood for the trees, see I can say something cute too
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He's a wind-up merchant. Or mad.
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26-11-2021, 15:17
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
I cannot imagine why you let the French off the hook like this.
They don't want the migrants and will assist them to launch towards England.
Escort/schmescort - you are either extremely Francophile or still bitter about Brexit or both or plain unreasonable.
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Ah good afternoon my old friend/sparring partner, trust you're well?
I'm merely pointing out that inaction in one area doesn't equate to action in another.
I'm none of those things, I'm a pragmatist & i believe that in the modern world in which we live and hopefully thrive it will be tact & diplomacy that see us progress, not anti <insert country here> rhetoric.
Each to their own however, be a boring old world if we were all held the same views.
Nice to hear from you sweetie xx
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26-11-2021, 15:19
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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In my opinion I don't believe that all of the French police or coastguard are stood there shouting 'Au revoir et bonne chance, voici un pain au chocolat' as they help them clamber onboard their boats.
A little perspective is called for, that's all
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Same as all Brexit voters aren't uneducated plebs from the North, Racists etc . . . however, perspective didn't hold you back there as I recall
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26-11-2021, 15:21
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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easier to be blinkered than to see the truth going on around them
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so you responded to videos of escorting saying they were not escorting without even watching the videos I posted???? what is that all about
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No... i asked you to post the videos because i saw you had posted this
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...postcount=3223
not your earlier posts....
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Same as all Brexit voters aren't uneducated plebs from the North, Racists etc . . . however, perspective didn't hold you back there as I recall
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hmmm i dont remember saying that, could you show me where?
(this is a new me, trying to be much calmer) and ready to admit past faults
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