Will Scotland Leave the UK?

[nashville]

Good humour London Road

[nomadking]

Why should people be allowed to vote for an "environment" which they are not part of and has no direct affect on them? Some countries(eg US) allow it, but that doesn't make it right.

[Wad_2002]

Originally Posted by nashville

Just read on FB from a Scottish soldier stationed abroad but is not allowed to vote. This is an disgrace.

Totally agree.

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Assumptions?...have you never made assumptions in your life before?

One would argue that you need to negotiate first with parties involved to get the answer first. As you will know, the UK government is not playing ball and would rather negotiate after the vote.

Putting this tac to the side, the only result can be an assumption. Is the snp's assumption based on that EU would accept Scotland due the independent wealth of the country it would bring to the EU and to the UK. I mean, its not like we're in the EU already

Ironic that Chris's poster states we don't meet EU reg's? [INSERT EVIDENCE HERE]

Aye...and what a time for the Mayor of London to compare himself to Thatcher. You couldn't write this

The whole SNP side of this seems to rely on everyone giving an independent scotland what it wants under the conditions it wants which doesn't seem a very safe bet to me. End of the day stay or go it is not going to affect me massively but i have a nasty feeling leaving is going to have drastic affects for the people of scotland and i don't want to see things worse for them then they have too be. Maybe i am missing something but why exactly does alex salmond believe he can get everything his way is he that naive or just stupid i have myy own opinion of the man from what i have seen but always good to ask others.

[nomadking]

The problem with these sort of things is that they are major constitutional matters that a simple passing of another law cannot change back. They have to be done with a long term view and with enough of a consensus and in a non-partisan way, that the majority don't complain in the future.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Wad_2002

Assumptions?...have you never made assumptions in your life before?

Yes, and got bit in the arse several times when what I assumed would happen......didn't.

One would argue that you need to negotiate first with parties involved to get the answer first.

. This would be the correct action otherwise you are asking people to vote on an unknown outcome.

[TheDaddy]

Daily mail firmly behind a Yes vote

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...ON-HEFFER.html

[Derek]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Daily mail firmly behind a Yes vote

One half-wit columnist (really, try reading his other articles, im surprised hes able to dress himself without help) does not equal a full call one way or other.

I'd imagine most sensible people realise the UK is far stronger as a union and would be fully behind a NO vote.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Daily mail firmly behind a Yes vote

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...ON-HEFFER.html

The article goes on to point out some of the pitfalls and problems. It is hardly selling the case for the "yes" vote.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Daily mail firmly behind a Yes vote

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...ON-HEFFER.html

You really haven't read past the third paragraph, have you ...

[Wad_2002]

Originally Posted by Derek

One half-wit columnist (really, try reading his other articles, im surprised hes able to dress himself without help) does not equal a full call one way or other.

I'd imagine most sensible people realise the UK is far stronger as a union and would be fully behind a NO vote.

I think your right. Personally even though I am voting yes, I don't think breaking the union is the answer.

But we have been waiting over a decade for the UK to make us stronger. The reailty is that they have made the UK weaker, poorer and a laughing stock of the advanded comparable contries of this fine world. One example would be recently downgraded credit rating.

Does no one remeber DC's speach this time last year stating how he will get hard will energy companies, we will stop the hikes, etc... Low and behold more hikes, which will continue year after year.

In a decades time we will be paying probs £2.50 for litre petrol, under a pound for a kw of lecy and so on.

Seriously when does the buck stop?

Yeah, Scotland will be stronger in the UK, but only if the UK works correctly, efficently and changes alot of policies.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Derek

One half-wit columnist (really, try reading his other articles, im surprised hes able to dress himself without help) does not equal a full call one way or other.

I'd imagine most sensible people realise the UK is far stronger as a union and would be fully behind a NO vote.

Ssssh there's a whole gang of no wits depending on whatever support they can get, don't take this away from them

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Originally Posted by Chris

You really haven't read past the third paragraph, have you ...

I read all of it but in true SNP fashion I chose to pick the bits I liked out and hope no one noticed the rest, I also resorted to their other tactics in telling half truths and lies about the mail supporting them and now that's all been disclosed I'm going for their other favourites of hoping for the best and blind optimism

An independent Scotland must cede some sovereignty if it keeps the pound or face a similar fate to bailed-out eurozone nations Greece and Portugal if its debt gets out of control, Mark Carney has warned.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/e...ys-Carney.html

Some of the Cybernat comments below this article are priceless.

[Derek]

So I suppose the 'expert opinion' that the UK would jump into a currency union with a newly independent peoples republic of Scotland will be filed away with the ability to join the EU while picking and choosing what to take and the other outlandish claims of a post separation utopia.