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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 6
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Some questions are too broad. On benefits I think those that need them probably should get more but it needs to be better focussed on the needy not those that know how to use the system.
Depends on the benefit. I don't need more money, I'd settle for more security. Those that do depend on them, proven that they are needed of course such as disability / illness (sickness doesn't sound right) are always under constant threat of change, reductions, constant scrutiny / reviews and ever moving goalposts.
Personally I'd be happy with less money than I get if I had the relief of some kind of security.
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 6
There is an unfolding scandal in Scotland as many people have not had their postal ballots in time for the beginning of the school holidays this weekend. Some councils have been forced to open centres where people can collect ballots in person before they head off wherever they’re going.
The councils are implicitly blaming voters who didn’t apply for their postal ballot until after 7 June, as this is the cut off date between two major tranches of collating/posting out votes to those who applied. Naturally this is an administrative date nobody outside the system can reasonably have known about. Naturally, also, those inside the system have shown remarkably little concern for the fact that the Scottish school holidays commence at the end of June every single year and all of this was entirely foreseeable.
Those councils which have not set up emergency collection points are complacently predicting everyone’s vote will be delivered by today, but anyone who doesn’t get one should phone their local office on Monday. By when many of them will of course already be wherever they were going that necessitated a postal vote in the first place.
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It was flagged almost immediately by the SNP that there was a risk of some Scottish voters being disenfranchised by the UK Government choosing this date.
It’ll be fascinating to see how farcical it becomes as undoubtedly someone losing narrowly will blame this.
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I popped down and picked up an Indian meal earlier, I have been in there every Tuesday for the past 6 or 7 years for a sit-down meal so I know them fairly well.
I started pulling the owners leg about Starmer and his comments about Bangladeshis knowing that the owner is Bangladeshi and a staunch Labour voter.
Not this time, he said after Starmers comments, the mosque he visits are now all voting for the Greens. He did say there are issues now with Bangladeshis taking the preverbial with the visa system.
I told him not to worry as his vote doesn't make any difference anyway, we've had a Labour government running us since 1998, been represented by a Labour MP since 1918 and the borough council has been Labour since 1974. (I think the urban district council before it was Labour too)
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Tories 'highly alarmed' by network of pro-Russian Facebook pages interfering in UK election
Ahead of the UK elections, the ABC has been monitoring five coordinated Facebook pages which have been spreading Kremlin talking points, with some posting in support of Nigel Farage's populist Reform UK party — a key challenger to the Conservatives in the July 4 poll.
The five pages identified by ABC Investigations as being part of a coordinated network appear to have little in common. One page presents itself as a pro-refugee left-wing group, while others reference white supremacist conspiracy theories and use AI-generated images of asylum seekers to stoke anti-immigration fears.
The ABC has been able to link these seemingly disparate pages by examining the location data attached to the pages' administrators, tracking paid ads, and by analysing the pages' similar or shared content…
… The network identified by ABC Investigations consists of five Facebook pages with a combined 190,000 followers. The pages have repeatedly shared the same images, text posts, and talking points and often post around the same time.
The five pages all feature criticism of several UK parties including the Conservatives and Labour. Some of these pages have supported Reform UK leader Nigel Farage, with two calling him "the people's champion".
Mr Farage came to prominence after spearheading the UK's Brexit movement. His party is standing Reform candidates in some historically Conservative seats and could intensify the electoral wipe-out the incumbent party is expected to receive on July 4.
Facebook pages for local Reform UK branches have shared some of the AI-generated anti-immigration content from these pages but there is no evidence of direct involvement by the party.
Reform UK did not respond to ABC questions.
Names of Facebook pages in pro-Russian network identified by the ABC:
UK Patriots
British Patriots
Common Sense Britain
BritBlend
BeyondBorders UK
ABC's analysis of the five pages found that while they claim to be based in the UK, most of the administrators for each page are based in Nigeria, with a small number being listed as based in the UK.
All the pages have run paid ads on Facebook. "Patriotic UK" has also run political ads, with one in 2022 criticising western support of Ukraine and another this week supporting Mr Farage to win the UK election.
Ad library data showed it targeted the ads to British men who were older than 65 years old and were paid for using Nigerian currency (NGN).
The Nigerian connection is significant because previous online Russian propaganda networks were found to have been operating from Africa.
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 6
Somebody has been a bit naughty at the Farage rally tonight…
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I do like the use of “Kremlin talking points” as if as soon as Putin, or anyone associated with the Russian Government or state media it’s automatically wrong and British people can’t be trusted to weigh it against the lies and misinformation that comes from our own politicians and/or media.
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I do like the use of “Kremlin talking points” as if as soon as Putin, or anyone associated with the Russian Government or state media it’s automatically wrong and British people can’t be trusted to weigh it against the lies and misinformation that comes from our own politicians and/or media.
Ooops….
You said the quiet bit out loud.
Strange how you focused on that point, and not
"The five pages identified by ABC Investigations as being part of a coordinated network appear to have little in common"
"ABC's analysis of the five pages found that while they claim to be based in the UK, most of the administrators for each page are based in Nigeria"
"The Nigerian connection is significant because previous online Russian propaganda networks were found to have been operating from Africa."
Probably just a automatic knee-jerk response on your behalf* when anyone points that that perhaps, just perhaps, Russia/Putin may not have our best interests at heart…
*or are you on a bonus scheme, with escalating payments, the more you try to whatabout any negative reporting about the Greater Rus?
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I'm sure it's just an unfortunate coincidence that Farage supported Putin's position - that the invasion of Ukraine was due to Nato and the EU expanding eastwards - and some of these fake Facebook sites supporting Reform UK.
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