How many users on your network?

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Stuart W

Where I work there are no less than 35 active WiFi AP's, 12 of which are totaly open 24/7 and give world readable IP addresses.

From time to time, our users like to set up their own APs (with varying levels of security). As such, we do a wireless survey regularly and remove any APs that we haven't been notified of and set up ourselves. And, yes, the technicians who do that have master keys to the user's office doors, so a locked door won't stop them.

If they need a wireless network, we have installed a wireless network that works using the Eduroam system*. They can do a lot of the stuff they might need to using that.

*For those who don't know, and can't be bothered to check the site, Eduroam is an international "network" of wireless networks. Basically if you are a student or staff member of a member of eduroam, you can go into any other member organisation and log on to their network using your log on id and password. So, I work at Greenwich Uni. Assuming I had reason to be there, I could go into a Uni in (say) Sweden, and log in there with my Greenwich account.

[Stuart W]

Ah, all the AP's where I work are set up by individuals / companies who want to 'show off'.

I must admit, it kinda makes me laugh, the walls of the data centre are so damn thick you only see WiFi at 70-90dB outside the building, so the people who 'see' the WiFi AP's are people who already have access to the data centre. Those people have a minimum of 100mbit Global Transit in their racks / cages, most having far more. (the company I work for have just over 11gbit of global transit)

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Stuart W

Ah, all the AP's where I work are set up by individuals / companies who want to 'show off'.

I must admit, it kinda makes me laugh, the walls of the data centre are so damn thick you only see WiFi at 70-90dB outside the building, so the people who 'see' the WiFi AP's are people who already have access to the data centre. Those people have a minimum of 100mbit Global Transit in their racks / cages, most having far more. (the company I work for have just over 11gbit of global transit)

I suspect the reason we do it is not so much passers by nicking our bandwidth (we are in grade 1 listed buildings with exterior walls up to four feet thick, it's doubtful that enough of a wifi signal gets through that to be useful), more that we have students wandering round, and some are quite good at hacking.

[Stuart W]

All the people wandering around the data centre have to go through such stringent security procedures that no matter what they do or where they do it there will be documentory evidence of everything, so it's very rare anything 'naughty' goes on (AFAIK)

If you wanted to get into the data centre posing as me, you would need my passport (and somehow get your photo in it) my index finger, both my eyes and my PAC tag (little black keyring to open doors)
Same setup for everyone.

[Raistlin]

Just wanted to say how happy I am to see that the title of this thread is spelled correctly

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Stuart W

If you wanted to get into the data centre posing as me, you would need my passport (and somehow get your photo in it) my index finger, both my eyes and my PAC tag (little black keyring to open doors)
Same setup for everyone.

Which is actually the kind of security I would expect for a data centre. When I went for an interview at the HSBC (then Midland) Data Processing Centre at Albert Embankment in London, I had to present my passport at the reception, then my Interviewer was called, and on the way to the server room (and his office), he had to sign me in at 15 security checkpoints.

Still, we are getting a little off topic.

To bring it back on topic, there are two users on my home network (only two of us living there, and I've got it secured as well as I can, so no neighbours can access it). As for number of users at work? God knows.. Probably nearly a thousand PCs (we have over 300 in this building alone, and God knows how many in our other building, and over 2,800 users.

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by Raistlin

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Please, for the love of all that is holy, could somebody edit the title of this thread?

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Why - what's wrong with it

[Acathla]

Be aware that the person with the open wireless network may be using it as a trap.
You connect, you open your machine to his network, he gains entry to your machine - bam - your the fool!

[dragon]

mine, currently 1 -2?

i let my house mates on the connection (well it wouldn't be very nice of me to hog it to myself would it) so 4 is not uncommon.

most of them wireless, my pc sits on a powerline link since wi-fi had to much jitter/packetloss for my liking

My wireless network does have a wpa security code set on it and a rather long random one at that.

That said cracking it is a complete waste of time, unless you were doing it from outside the house

since anyone visiting could either just plug into the router wired or just ask for the wi-fi pass code.

I can see about 12 networks from the livingroom, most encrypted some aren't tho

[Anonymouse]

Originally Posted by Jefferson T

Why - what's wrong with it

Thanks, Jefferson - it was driving me mad as well, and I'm the one who started the thread!

Can the person who started a thread alter its title? I still can't believe I didn't spot that; I'm normally careful about that sort of thing almost to the point of obsession.

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by Anonymouse

Thanks, Jefferson - it was driving me mad as well, and I'm the one who started the thread!

Can the person who started a thread alter its title? I still can't believe I didn't spot that; I'm normally careful about that sort of thing almost to the point of obsession.

You can't, no, but if it happens again pm a member of the team and I'm sure they'll change it for you.