13-06-2024, 22:14
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 4
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Didn't know we in Wales were voting on the Senedd, 14 years of labour misrule just be careful what you wish for
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I'm wishing foremost for the Tories to be consigned to the history books. Anything else will be a bonus.
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13-06-2024, 22:17
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 4
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A certain David Cameron I believe held a similar position to yours a few years ago, and look where that ended
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I accept the point but electing your own MP against a range of choices available, about who governs you day to day, is different from a binary referendum.
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13-06-2024, 22:48
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 4
So who is the 1 person who clicked Conservative? Put your hand up now....
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13-06-2024, 23:44
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 4
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3 weeks to go to the end of the worst ever government
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Strictly speaking, it ended at the end of May when parliament was disolved. There are no MPs at this time.
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13-06-2024, 23:56
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 4
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Strictly speaking, it ended at the end of May when parliament was disolved. There are no MPs at this time.
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The Government and Ministers stay in place (and working) until the Election.
https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/...l/dissolution/
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What happens to the Government when Parliament is dissolved?
Parliament and Government are two separate institutions.
The Government does not resign when Parliament is dissolved. Government ministers remain in charge of their departments. The role of minister is independent of the role of MP.
Ministers keep their ministerial titles after dissolution, but MPs can no longer use MP in their name.
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14-06-2024, 01:05
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 4
Thank you mr smarty, again.
Dave was clearly referring to the Conservatives, and they have already gone, as have all MPs.
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14-06-2024, 10:52
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 4
Still up in the air for me.
Do I give Reform a free hit, but they're not a serious alternative. Even if they realise what they're polling at, will still only return one, maybe three at the very best, MP's.
The Tories are going to take a massive kicking anyway, Sunak will resign anyway. Do I vote for them, My MP may still win their seat. Either way, the Tories will have to spend the next five years re-finding their identity, hopefully maybe even a right wing Tory party may emerge from the wreckage.
They'll need to get their act together quick because Labour could well be there for the taking in five years. New Labour 2.0 they are not.
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14-06-2024, 12:58
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 4
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Didn't know we in Wales were voting on the Senedd, 14 years of labour misrule just be careful what you wish for
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24 years of Labour misrule, because even though they have done a deal with the Lib Dems and Plaid, they have always had the most seats.
They just let the Lib Dems and Plaid have some of their loony policies implemented as a sweetener for the deal. Plaid as always are untrustworthy, once they get their demands implemented they look for the first opportunity to break the agreement.
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14-06-2024, 13:23
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 4
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The Tories are going to take a massive kicking anyway, Sunak will resign anyway. Do I vote for them, My MP may still win their seat. Either way, the Tories will have to spend the next five years re-finding their identity, hopefully maybe even a right wing Tory party may emerge from the wreckage..
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I think the problem is less their identity and more their competence. If you look at what people care about it's not the party isn't right-wing enough, it's that their cost of living is up, their mortgage is up, NHS waiting lists are up and they can't find a dentist.
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14-06-2024, 13:29
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 4
I actually agree with Pierre that the Conservatives do need to rediscover an identity. As well as incompetence, there’s generally populist BS that has been a staple of the Johnson and post Johnson governments.
What principles does a Conservative Party stand for? In the last 5 years I’m not so sure. Other than plundering the state’s wealth with their cronyism.
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14-06-2024, 13:54
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 4
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and they can't find a dentist.
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Dentists are easy to find ..... they're just all private now.
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14-06-2024, 15:11
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 4
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Dentists are easy to find ..... they're just all private now.
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Thankfully l have had the same dentist on the NHS for 22 years but sadly several of my familly who live up in Hampshire cannot get a dentist for love and money.
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 4
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Thankfully l have had the same dentist on the NHS for 22 years but sadly several of my familly who live up in Hampshire cannot get a dentist for love and money.
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I've had the same dentist for 33 years, but they dropped NHS work at the end of 2023. Its now private only.
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14-06-2024, 16:27
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 4
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So who is the 1 person who clicked Conservative? Put your hand up now....
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Me always me, I will never vote for KS party, and any vote other than Tory puts him in to no 10.
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14-06-2024, 18:05
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 4
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Me always me, I will never vote for KS party, and any vote other than Tory puts him in to no 10.
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Depends which constituency you're in. If you vote for a 3rd placed party you could help the party you least want. Cracking system isn't it?
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