21-06-2024, 10:16
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 5
Without passing judgement on the levels of immigration - legal or otherwise - anyone who believes the Tories after 14 years of dog whistling should have the vote taken off them.
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21-06-2024, 10:59
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 5
For the first time in my voting life I don’t know who to vote for only whom I don’t want to vote for.
What a completely,rubbish,useless bunch to try and make a sensible choice from.
Just as I find a candidate who might be better than the rest they do or say something really stupid.
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21-06-2024, 11:44
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 5
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21-06-2024, 11:59
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 5
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Just as I find a candidate who might be better than the rest they do or say something really stupid.
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My vote is now in the post so they had better not blow it in the next two weeks.
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21-06-2024, 12:01
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 5
My postal vote arrived … and has gone back. Voted for the red team for the first time in my life. They’d better not screw it up.
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21-06-2024, 13:07
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 5
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My postal vote arrived … and has gone back. Voted for the red team for the first time in my life. They’d better not screw it up.
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Can things get any worse?
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21-06-2024, 13:44
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 5
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I think there’s little doubt the inner circle around Keir Starmer is at least as competent as anything any Tory government could put together. For me, the stumbling block I could never get past was the party fringes. There are utter fruit loops on the fringes of both the Labour and Tory parliamentary parties, but on balance I always felt I could tolerate the Tory oddballs better because they are generally interested in feathering their own nests, which while irritating, doesn’t tend to affect me. The so-called progressives of the Loony Left, however, have an evangelistic zeal to remake society in their own image.
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21-06-2024, 13:59
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 5
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I think there’s little doubt the inner circle around Keir Starmer is at least as competent as anything any Tory government could put together. For me, the stumbling block I could never get past was the party fringes. There are utter fruit loops on the fringes of both the Labour and Tory parliamentary parties, but on balance I always felt I could tolerate the Tory oddballs better because they are generally interested in feathering their own nests, which while irritating, doesn’t tend to affect me. The so-called progressives of the Loony Left, however, have an evangelistic zeal to remake society in their own image.
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Starmer has kicked a lot of them out anyway, the ones that remain have no power base and are fractured themselves these days between the old SWP lot and the newer generation. Momentum is pretty much finished and the parts of the left-wing base that remain behind Corbyn have gone off to the Greens.
I think if Labour fail in Government it won't be because they try to go too left-wing.
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21-06-2024, 14:14
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 5
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Starmer has kicked a lot of them out anyway, the ones that remain have no power base and are fractured themselves these days between the old SWP lot and the newer generation. Momentum is pretty much finished and the parts of the left-wing base that remain behind Corbyn have gone off to the Greens.
I think if Labour fail in Government it won't be because they try to go too left-wing.
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I tend to agree, and that’s what finally tipped me over the edge. (I mean that metaphorically - I was always going to have to hold my nose and vote for the Labour anyway, come what may, just to get the SNP out - now I can at least feel I’ve made a positive choice.)
Starmer sounds cautious to the point of timid at the moment and if that’s how he approaches governing he and Labour will fail. We are at a 1945 moment, where lots of people are willing to see a government do something different. He should heed the warning of 1950/51.
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21-06-2024, 14:41
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 5
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Some people support a political party like a football team and feel as though they have to support them come what may.
You've shown that, despite being a former supporter of the Conservative Party, even considering standing for election under their banner, if you disagree with things that the Tories have done, you will say so.
As a floating voter, I respect that.
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21-06-2024, 14:56
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 5
Achievement unlocked, I guess
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21-06-2024, 21:59
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22-06-2024, 03:17
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 5
Umm, ok ...
Care to enlighten those of us who have no idea what that is.
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22-06-2024, 06:04
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 5
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More likely living proof Russian money is funding his campaign, as it always has.
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22-06-2024, 09:00
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 5
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Umm, ok ...
Care to enlighten those of us who have no idea what that is.
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From wiki
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the horseshoe theory asserts that advocates of the far-left and the far-right, rather than being at opposite and opposing ends of a linear continuum of the political spectrum, closely resemble each other, analogous to the way that the opposite ends of a horseshoe are close together
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