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12-06-2022, 00:19
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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TBH if there was ever going to be a robot rebellion it would probably start with someone asking them to give their unqualified support to Boris Johnson.
My entire adult life I have voted either Conservative, or on occasion a pro-Brexit party likely to damage the local conservative. These past few weeks I have found myself wondering whether next time I might have to make peace with a serious political alternative.
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I appreciate your candid honesty. This is the point I have been making: the true decent Conservative voters will desert this current version of the Party because they (the voters) have a core of decency, integrity and morality. No matter how you differ on certain political positions, there is a common agreement on how how a society should be governed and this is not that.
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12-06-2022, 10:05
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
There's too many trying to occupy the centre position in politics..The trouble with that is all the others occupying the other extremes cancel that position out eventually.
Maybe we need to grow up and learn some give and take as a consequence.We don't seem to negotiate as much as we used to or should do.
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12-06-2022, 14:08
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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Originally Posted by Maggy
There's too many trying to occupy the centre position in politics..The trouble with that is all the others occupying the other extremes cancel that position out eventually.
Maybe we need to grow up and learn some give and take as a consequence.We don't seem to negotiate as much as we used to or should do.
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Maybe it's time to ditch supporting parties just because, hold them to account and drop this least worst option or ideological nonsense, they rely on core support that they don't deserve or respect so show 'em in the ballot box. I'm pretty sure I'll be voting labour for the first time ever in the next election and if they don't prove worthy of my vote they won't get it next time, simple as that
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12-06-2022, 17:49
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
Unless you're in one of the few marginal constituencies your vote is pretty pointless anyway thanks to our crap electoral system.
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13-06-2022, 09:32
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
Marginals tend to be Labour/LibDem or Tory/LibDem so the only winners would be LibDem and they would then change the system so only LibDem (or similar) would ever control parliament.
I want to vote for a candidate not a party.
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13-06-2022, 09:47
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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Unless you're in one of the few marginal constituencies your vote is pretty pointless anyway thanks to our crap electoral system.
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There's no perfect electoral system but the current one is designed to maintain a duopoly so huge scope to improve it if it were not for self interest.
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13-06-2022, 10:23
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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Marginals tend to be Labour/LibDem or Tory/LibDem so the only winners would be LibDem and they would then change the system so only LibDem (or similar) would ever control parliament.
I want to vote for a candidate not a party.
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Me too but with the added ability to actually use the liar liar pants on fire bit.
Anyway I just wish that in this constituency the vast majority would ACTUALLY think about voting for a different party instead of apathetically never taking a risk. Or even actually voting for the actual candidate instead of the party.
No chance here though,everyone loves Fred's daughter.
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13-06-2022, 11:06
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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Originally Posted by Maggy
Me too but with the added ability to actually use the liar liar pants on fire bit.
Anyway I just wish that in this constituency the vast majority would ACTUALLY think about voting for a different party instead of apathetically never taking a risk. Or even actually voting for the actual candidate instead of the party.
No chance here though,everyone loves Fred's daughter.
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I just don't get why people follow political parties like they follow football teams. The manifestos of the various parties change yet people still support the same party resolutely. I say treat them more like supermarkets and shop around each time.
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13-06-2022, 11:08
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
Keir Starmer facing SLEAZE probe in huge blow as Labour leader flounders against Boris
SIR KEIR STARMER is facing a second investigation into his conduct after claims he failed to properly declare his outside earnings, gifts, benefits and hospitality
The Labour leader has been hit by a probe by the independent Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards Kathryn Stone.
An update on the Parliament Standards website reveals a formal review on two fronts was launched on June 8.
The first matter under investigation is stated as: "Registration of interests under Category 1 of the Guide to the Rules (Employment and earnings)."
And the second: "Registration of interests under Category 3 of the Guide to the Rules (Gifts, benefits and hospitality from UK sources)."
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...atchdog-labour
Using his usual excuse to downplay the seriousness of the matter, Sir Keir this morning told reporters he had done nothing wrong.
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15-06-2022, 18:45
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
Lord Geidt has resigned...
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15-06-2022, 18:56
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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Lord Geidt has resigned...
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Yes, just saw it too: Prime minister's ethics adviser Lord Geidt resigns
https://news.sky.com/story/prime-min...signs-12634638
I would imagine the position is largely redundant and Johnson won't seek to replace the role.
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15-06-2022, 19:30
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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Should be filed away in the oxymoron drawer along with the minister for Brexit opportunities job.
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15-06-2022, 21:15
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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Should be filed away in the oxymoron drawer along with the minister for Brexit opportunities job.
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lol, spot on!
That latter job is rightly known as Mission Impossible!
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16-06-2022, 10:07
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
Would love to see Lord Geidt's resignation letter!
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Downing Street is under pressure to make public why Boris Johnson's ethics adviser has quit - as the government faces an urgent question in the Commons over his exit.
Number 10 has not published any letter from Lord Geidt to the prime minister explaining the reasons for his unexpected departure but is set to provide an update later.
Labour said the government must be open about the adviser's exit - which follows the resignation of Sir Alex Allan, his predecessor in the role, in 2020, and the resignation of the prime minister's anti-corruption champion, John Penrose, last week.
The party has tabled an urgent question on the matter.
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https://news.sky.com/story/not-clear...-raab-12634781
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16-06-2022, 10:34
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61822998
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The government is expected to publish a letter from Boris Johnson's former ethics adviser Lord Geidt who resigned suddenly without explanation.
Lord Geidt was known to be unhappy with the prime minister's handling of Partygate and had suggested he may have broken the ministerial code.
Critics warned No 10 that failing to release the letter would reflect badly on the government.
Downing Street is also expected to publish the PM's reply to Lord Geidt.
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