Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
22-09-2017, 22:16
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
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Originally Posted by nodrogd
The vast majority won't bother with Sky, as they will not only have to pay for the satellite slot, but must join Sky's encryption system due to rights issues with some of the programmes they rebroadcast. There are no local channels on Freesat for this very reason.
It must be a massive outlay for just a few thousand viewers. London Live is the only local channel I know of that uses Sky, & with a potential audience in millions rather that thousands this is the only one ever likely too (Excluding possibly STV2).
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
Possible sign that the rumour that GOLD is to go HD could be true.
Apparently, UKTV are currently testing an (encrypted) channel on satellite using Eden, but with EPG listings for GOLD HD!
Hopefully they will make GOLD SD FTA and put it on Freeview (which might explain the confusion over an advert that appeared to suggest that it was advertising GOLD as being on Freeview) and keep the HD variant behind a paywall.
If true, I wonder if we will get GOLD HD on VM? We only got the full selection of UKTV channels just before VM sold off their stake in them.
Anyone know when the carriage deal is up for renewal?
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Hope so, Rich. Gold and Drama have started sharing certain programmes, so that also could be a sign.
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22-09-2017, 23:54
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
Does anyone actually watch Local TV what a complete waste of time and money.
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Not many and, let's face it, there's very little there to attract an audience with such a low budget.
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Originally Posted by telegramsam
Been very disappointed with local TV in my area for the very reason they show little to no actual local TV programs. Made In Tyne & Wear for example (which incidentally is on Sky ) shows America's Got Talent! Hardly made in Tyne & Wear is it!
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No, it's TruTV.
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23-09-2017, 01:03
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
The local TV project has been a complete waste of time, I'm afraid.
I do believe this could have succeeded, but unfortunately those involved don't have the first clue about how this could work!
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23-09-2017, 06:14
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
Does anyone actually watch Local TV what a complete waste of time and money.
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l agree with everything you have said here MM.
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23-09-2017, 08:31
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
The local TV project has been a complete waste of time, I'm afraid.
I do believe this could have succeeded, but unfortunately those involved don't have the first clue about how this could work!
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Agree entirely with you old boy. I had high hopes of seeing locally made programs on and about Teesside on Made In Teesside but it just hasn't happened so far. When I emailed them a few months back they said to keep watching as they would improve and more local content would be coming but as I say a big disappointment still.
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23-09-2017, 10:04
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
If true, I wonder if we will get GOLD HD on VM? We only got the full selection of UKTV channels just before VM sold off their stake in them.
Anyone know when the carriage deal is up for renewal?
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Assuming the deal (which is more or less certain) for Discovery purchasing Scripps Networks goes through then I'd say a very good chance as it will mean Mr Malone will in effect control 50% of UKTV.
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23-09-2017, 14:26
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
Good point.
It's odd to think that VM sold off VM Ireland and their 50% UKTV stake, only for Malone to buy them back.
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23-09-2017, 16:36
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
Good point.
It's odd to think that VM sold off VM Ireland and their 50% UKTV stake, only for Malone to buy them back.
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I have my own theory but staying quiet on it all i say is one word is publicity and the second starts with s ends with t.
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23-09-2017, 19:43
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
Good point.
It's odd to think that VM sold off VM Ireland and their 50% UKTV stake, only for Malone to buy them back.
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I think there is a common phrase response for this. What goes around comes around!
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24-09-2017, 05:31
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
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Originally Posted by Aguero9320
Hope so, Rich. Gold and Drama have started sharing certain programmes, so that also could be a sign.
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I think I've worked out what's going on.
The Sky EPG shows Eden HD as closing down at 6am on Monday (VM carries on as usual). I expect the test channel currently showing Eden HD with GOLD on its EPG listing to become GOLD HD.
Sky Living Ireland HD recently closed down (Irish satellite viewers now receive the same feed as the UK as the EPG is now mapped to the English version).
I bet that Sky are reviewing the value that they get from their own HD channels and those that they subsidise resulting, thus far, in:
- Sky Living Ireland HD closing.
- Eden HD closing, with the former capacity being used to create GOLD HD.
I think that Eden SD and GOLD SD will eventually become FTA, with GOLD at least going onto Freeview and both going onto Freesat.
What about VM as a result of these changes?
Well, as it's been reported that the Irish version of Sky Living HD continues on VM Ireland, maybe we will keep Eden HD and hopefully we will get GOLD HD too. VM HD channels are line fed, so the capacity is borne by VM, so I guess it's possible that we may end up with some HD channels that Sky don't have (for a change)!
I never envisaged that HD channels would be closing down in 2017!!
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24-09-2017, 08:37
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
That's a shame as Eden is one of the channels that benefits most from being available in HD. Perhaps (here''s hoping) it's just moving transponder on Sky and HD will remain available on both platforms.
Last edited by Inactive Digital; 24-09-2017 at 09:04.
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24-09-2017, 08:48
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
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Originally Posted by Inactive Digital
That's a shame as Eden is one of the channels that benefit's most from being available in HD. Perhaps (here''s hoping) it's just moving transponder on Sky and HD will remain available on both platforms.
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That's appalling getting rid of Eden HD which is one of the few channels which really benefits from HD for wildlife programmes etc. Just so we can watch 1970s sitcoms on Gold HD that were never made in HD in the first place.... ( I do like my 70s sitcoms btw, but HD won't make them funnier...)
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24-09-2017, 10:21
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
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Originally Posted by Inactive Digital
That's a shame as Eden is one of the channels that benefits most from being available in HD. Perhaps (here''s hoping) it's just moving transponder on Sky and HD will remain available on both platforms.
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It certainly seems a strange move, unless Sky are getting Eden UHD!
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24-09-2017, 14:46
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
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Last edited by Ddonald2016; 24-09-2017 at 14:47.
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24-09-2017, 19:32
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
I think the problem with Eden is it's relatively low viewing figures.
There has been speculation for some time that Eden & Good Food would be the next (last?) UKTV channels to go FTA. Perhaps it's viewing figures are too low for either Sky or UKTV to maintain an HD variant, but the SD variant might be cost effective using a FTA business model with the increased advertising reach??
There is no benefit to broadcasters in providing HD channels as they cost more to broadcast without any extra advertising income (unless companies like VM & Sky subsidise them).
As Sky & VM no longer appear to be creating/subsidising HD channels for the sake of it, I think that the less popular channels will only become HD due to 'keeping up with the neighbours' (eg the PSB channels) or when SD kit becomes obsolete.
If Sky have decided that certain HD channels aren't driving up or maintaining subscriptions, then it looks like funding is being withdrawn as part of their cost cutting measures because of the cost of the football rights and stagnation of their subscriber base.
Any old GOLD programming recorded on film will benefit from HD, but not stuff recorded on video. Less old material may well have been recorded in HD anyway.
Last edited by RichardCoulter; 24-09-2017 at 19:43.
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