Police to get tough on internet trolls.
22-04-2023, 21:53
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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I suspect that they will use AI to check the majority of them, with human intervention when something of importance is flagged up.
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Richard do you understand just how big the system will be to do this. Plus even IF they could and they cannot, it would cost a fortune. Checking every single encrypted message sent on every single encrypted message App
So how would they track me if i am using a burner phone or logged into an open WIFI access point. ?
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22-04-2023, 21:56
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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Exactly
It is so easy to use free wifi in fact it is so easy to use other peoples wifi even if it is password protected.  |
If Whattsapp were to be proscribed, I doubt that those who were simply talking about apple pie recipes would go to these lengths or risk getting caught though.
Whattsapp would lose most of their users in the UK if they refused to comply and the Government didn't back down.
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22-04-2023, 21:59
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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Even if they can't identify the people talking at the time, it would be useful to scupper plans being made to bomb a particular place at a particular time.
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How
If they cannot even read the message how would they know, Maybe tea leaves in a cup 
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22-04-2023, 21:59
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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Even if they can't identify the people talking at the time, it would be useful to scupper plans being made to bomb a particular place at a particular time.
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Yeah cuz terrorists are well known to use whatsapp and facebook messenger aint they? they got message boards on the dark web for that shiz and highly encrypted apps
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22-04-2023, 22:00
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
If Whattsapp were to be proscribed, I doubt that those who were simply talking about apple pie recipes would go to these lengths or risk getting caught though.
Whattsapp would lose most of their users in the UK if they refused to comply and the Government didn't back down.
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Trust me i could still use WhatsApp even if it was banned in the UK.
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22-04-2023, 22:42
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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Trust me i could still use WhatsApp even if it was banned in the UK.
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And/or just use one of the many other options out there.
Anyone who doesn't want Meta to own their stuff (by own I mean allowing Meta to use it for whatever they want) probably doesn't use WhatsApp anyway.
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22-04-2023, 23:24
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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Maybe the Government will make it a criminal offence to use WhatsApp?
I doubt that most people would risk the consequences of using a proscribed platform. The remaining users are likely to be using a platform using end to end encryption for questionable purposes, so O suspect that they would go after the remaining users.
Also, money talks and Whattsapp may eventually relent when they realise how much money/market share that they will lose. At the moment I suspect it's nothinf more than verbal jousting.
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Looks like they will bypass this by going in through a back door to circumvent efforts to hide what's being said;
https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/e...-a9030046.html |
How are the Goverment going to get access to a backdoor?
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23-04-2023, 01:04
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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Trust me i could still use WhatsApp even if it was banned in the UK.
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Maybe you could, but would you really risk getting caught breaking the law when alternatives exist?
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How are the Goverment going to get access to a backdoor?
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No idea. I assume that they'll employ experts in this field to achieve their goal.
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Yeah cuz terrorists are well known to use whatsapp and facebook messenger aint they? they got message boards on the dark web for that shiz and highly encrypted apps
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I'm sure they will have, but the less organised terrorists and paedophiles regularly use Wharrsapp.
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23-04-2023, 02:20
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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Maybe you could, but would you really risk getting caught breaking the law when alternatives exist?
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No idea. I assume that they'll employ experts in this field to achieve their goal.
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I'm sure they will have, but the less organised terrorists and paedophiles regularly use Wharrsapp.
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And you know this how?
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23-04-2023, 07:13
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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Maybe you could, but would you really risk getting caught breaking the law when alternatives exist?
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Please show me where they will make it a LAW that will prevent me as a private citizen from using WhatsApp or any other E2E encrypted App in the UK. Real evidence not what you think will happen.
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23-04-2023, 09:20
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
Are we sure that Exynos or Snapdragon does not call mama back?
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23-04-2023, 10:08
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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Are we sure that Exynos or Snapdragon does not call mama back?
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Reasonably, because they are tested by GCHQ’s National Cyber Security Centre.
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23-04-2023, 11:29
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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Reasonably, because they are tested by GCHQ’s National Cyber Security Centre.
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I moved to Iphone 2 years ago due to the better security, its not perfect but better than normal for a phone.
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23-04-2023, 15:51
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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And you know this how?
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Media reports and filmed interactions when they are caught where evidence is discussed.
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Please show me where they will make it a LAW that will prevent me as a private citizen from using WhatsApp or any other E2E encrypted App in the UK. Real evidence not what you think will happen.
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I have never claimed that they definitely will do. My point is that if they do so, I suspect that you and others wouldn't risk the consequences and go to the trouble of using a proscribed service, particularly when legal alternatives would still exist.
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23-04-2023, 16:00
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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Media reports and filmed interactions when they are caught where evidence is discussed.
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I have never claimed that they definitely will do. My point is that if they do so, I suspect that you and others wouldn't risk the consequences and go to the trouble of using a proscribed service, particularly when legal alternatives would still exist.
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