13-10-2020, 19:25
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by jfman
The bold Kier with a policy proposal. Just not the one some were hoping for...
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Thanks Kier, we tried that already.
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13-10-2020, 19:30
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by jfman
The bold Kier with a policy proposal. Just not the one some were hoping for...
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If it's such a good idea, why haven't Labour-run Wales tried it?
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13-10-2020, 19:34
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Re: Coronavirus
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If it's such a good idea, why haven't Labour-run Wales tried it?
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You can't implement a GB- or UK-wide scheme if you only run Wales.
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13-10-2020, 19:41
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
You can't implement a GB- or UK-wide scheme if you only run Wales.
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starmer only suggested it for England.
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13-10-2020, 19:42
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
You can't implement a GB- or UK-wide scheme if you only run Wales.
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Or indeed have the fiscal powers to fund it.
Wales are suggesting closing the border though. That should get unionists foaming at the mouth.
Last edited by jfman; 13-10-2020 at 19:46.
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13-10-2020, 19:47
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Re: Coronavirus
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Or indeed have the fiscal powers to fund it.
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IIRC They've already locked down 60% of Wales.
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A second national Welsh lockdown is being considered as Covid-19 cases rise, the health minister has said.
Vaughan Gething said there was "growing concern" local restrictions may not be enough to stop a rise in cases, which he said was close to its spring peak.
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13-10-2020, 19:50
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Re: Coronavirus
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Being slightly more efficient won't pay off the massive tax burden BoJo's government has bestowed on the country.
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Bestowed at the request of everyone who wanted (still wants) lock downs.
Whoever was in power would have had the same burden, Labour would likely have spent even more, with any even bigger resulting debt.
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13-10-2020, 19:57
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Re: Coronavirus
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Bestowed at the request of everyone who wanted (still wants) lock downs.
Whoever was in power would have had the same burden, Labour would likely have spent even more, with any even bigger resulting debt.
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No generation of politicians until this one has ever considered debt a problem.
Despite record low interest rates meaning the cost of the debt is virtually zero, especially compared to the 80s and 90s, and in actual fact the real terms amounts of debt frequently being eroded by inflation.
There’s never been a better time to borrow and invest.
It’s a political choice to erode the role and purpose of the state. Nothing more and nothing less. It’s got no basis in any economic theory for promoting growth.
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13-10-2020, 20:05
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Paul
Bestowed at the request of everyone who wanted (still wants) lock downs.
Whoever was in power would have had the same burden, Labour would likely have spent even more, with any even bigger resulting debt.
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That's the scientists. Best to follow their advance than internet warriors.
We're suffering a stuffed economy and a high infection rate due largely to poor track and trace. That's a government failing, not an inevitability.
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13-10-2020, 20:08
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Re: Coronavirus
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No generation of politicians until this one has ever considered debt a problem.
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Of course they have, I can remember endless talk about it on the news in previous decades.
I can even remember the government (labour, Callaghan) having to be bailed out by the IMF.
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13-10-2020, 20:09
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
That's the scientists. Best to follow their advance than internet warriors.
We're suffering a stuffed economy and a high infection rate due largely to poor track and trace. That's a government failing, not an inevitability.
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£10bn on that failed system too!
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13-10-2020, 20:10
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Re: Coronavirus
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We're suffering a stuffed economy and a high infection rate due largely to poor track and trace. That's a government failing, not an inevitability.
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Good grief, what utter nonsense, what planet are you on ?
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13-10-2020, 20:11
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Paul
Of course they have, I can remember endless talk about it on the news in previous decades.
I can even remember the government (labour, Callaghan) having to be bailed out by the IMF.
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Didn’t stop any Government before 2010 spending or have them “balancing the books”. Tory governments don’t have a record of running budget surpluses - even when they sold off all meaningful state assets.
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13-10-2020, 20:15
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Re: Coronavirus
LOL, your just making this up as you go along.
Anyway, it all has very little to do with the topic, so lets get back to the subject at hand.
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13-10-2020, 20:15
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Re: Coronavirus
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Good grief, what utter nonsense, what planet are you on ?
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You're the only person who took Boris at his word when he said "world-leading track and trace".
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