05-07-2024, 00:56
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Re: Password manager
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Perhaps it my paranoia but if your one password is worked out every thing is opened, seems like a daft idea to me ![Cool](images/smilies/cool.gif)
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Hence you use one that cant be "worked out". Plus as noted, there is 2FA.
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05-07-2024, 17:50
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Re: Password manager
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Hence you use one that cant be "worked out". Plus as noted, there is 2FA.
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Really tell that all the businesses that have had there computers hacked (for want of a better word) What happens if the provider gets hacked O, let me guess they cant ![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif) this sounds more and more like a marketing dept Dream think of something that no one needs and convince them they do.
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05-07-2024, 18:15
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Re: Password manager
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Originally Posted by Itshim
Really tell that all the businesses that have had there computers hacked (for want of a better word) What happens if the provider gets hacked O, let me guess they cant ![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif) this sounds more and more like a marketing dept Dream think of something that no one needs and convince them they do.
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We have said we use 2FA
If you do not have it set then you are far more vulnerable than those of us using a password manager. Yes if there is a data breach all are passwords are unsafe but we still have 2FA protecting us. What is protecting you from a data beach on any of your log in hosts?
incidentally I use Bitwarden and my passwords are encrypted behind a single password but guess what? even if there was a breach they still need 2FA to access the encrypted passwords getting my Master Password will not give them access
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06-07-2024, 01:54
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Re: Password manager
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Originally Posted by Itshim
Really tell that all the businesses that have had there computers hacked (for want of a better word) What happens if the provider gets hacked O, let me guess they cant ![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif) this sounds more and more like a marketing dept Dream think of something that no one needs and convince them they do.
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Yes, really. I wonder who knows more about IT security, you or me ?
If you going to act as if you know it all, dont waste our time asking for help.
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06-07-2024, 14:56
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Re: Password manager
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Yes, really. I wonder who knows more about IT security, you or me ?
If you going to act as if you know it all, dont waste our time asking for help.
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I did not ask for help ![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](images/smilies/rolleyes.gif) have you seen the warning put out by O2 . Remember a secret is only a secret if you don't tell ANYONE. Calling IT secure is "emperors new clothes syndrome". I assume that you do read the news. Banks , NHS major, businesses have problems, but I guess they didn't ask you for
help https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/u...wsApp_AppShare
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06-07-2024, 15:59
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Re: Password manager
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I did not ask for help ![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](images/smilies/rolleyes.gif) have you seen the warning put out by O2 . Remember a secret is only a secret if you don't tell ANYONE. Calling IT secure is "emperors new clothes syndrome". I assume that you do read the news. Banks , NHS major, businesses have problems, but I guess they didn't ask you for
help https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/u...wsApp_AppShare
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They should all have the option to set up 2FA
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06-07-2024, 16:05
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Re: Password manager
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Originally Posted by Itshim
I did not ask for help ![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](images/smilies/rolleyes.gif) have you seen the warning put out by O2 . Remember a secret is only a secret if you don't tell ANYONE. Calling IT secure is "emperors new clothes syndrome". I assume that you do read the news. Banks , NHS major, businesses have problems, but I guess they didn't ask you for
help https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/u...wsApp_AppShare
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You appear to be confusing end-user access security (you and I as customers of various companies trying to prevent others from fraudulently accessing our accounts) with companies abilities to prevent hackers accessing their systems to gain information - whilst part of the same gamut of security, we all have some responsibility (and self-interest) in reducing others ability to defraud our accounts.
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06-07-2024, 19:11
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Re: Password manager
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I did not ask for help ![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
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You asked a question.
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have you seen the warning put out by O2
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Yes, its totally irrelevant to bitwarden.
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Remember a secret is only a secret if you don't tell ANYONE.
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Then dont tell anyone
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06-07-2024, 19:21
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Re: Password manager
I think we are seeing here a total lack of willingness to learn from people who know better. A few of us have gone into detail on how password managers are safe to use with 2FA but the fear of a mass data breach is too much to cope with. This is fine but in this case the lack of understanding of what 2FA is and an unwillingness to learn about it makes them more vulnerable anyway.
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12-07-2024, 12:20
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Re: Password manager
I used to use LassPass which synced across my PC, Phone & tablet.
But they decided to go down the pay if you want 2 or more route, so I just deleted my details and account,
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12-07-2024, 12:49
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Re: Password manager
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I used to use LassPass which synced across my PC, Phone & tablet.
But they decided to go down the pay if you want 2 or more route, so I just deleted my details and account,
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Me too and I moved to Bitwarden Free which alot of people seem to have done.
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12-07-2024, 13:16
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Re: Password manager
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Me too and I moved to Bitwarden Free which alot of people seem to have done.
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I was one of them, moved from LP to BW about 3/4 years ago now.
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