Coronavirus

[Dude111]

Oh my Stevie that sounds aweful........I hope it goes ok!!

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Russ

Not at all. Most covidiots spouting bollards about this were not personally affected by those dying during the pandemic, or since. They just see a report of someone “dying unexpectedly” then shriek “The Vaccine!!!” as if nobody ever died unexpectedly before it. Conspiracy-based hand-wringing.

The effing state of it.

Have death certificate, aggravated by covid injection or words to that effect.doctor was more plain, the jab cause death

[Russ]

By the injection or the actual vaccine?

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Russ

By the injection or the actual vaccine?

The vaccine.

[Russ]

In that case I wouldn’t consider you a covidiot. Real covidiots are those types who have not been personally affected by the side effects but contribute any illness or unexpected death to “the vaccine!!!!”. Like, trawling through social media for any stories about sudden deaths and suddenly they become a “reesurcher” and spout absolute bollards about it.

It’s tragic for anyone who lost a loved one from the side effects. My only involvement with the whole thing is one of my mother’s elderly neighbours, she’s type 1 diabetic and she caught Covid, laying her up for 2 weeks but the doctors said had she not been vaccinated she most likely wouldn’t have survived. I get the impression this sort of thing has happened en masse.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Russ

. My only involvement with the whole thing is one of my mother’s elderly neighbours, she’s type 1 diabetic and she caught Covid, laying her up for 2 weeks but the doctors said had she not been vaccinated she most likely wouldn’t have survived. I get the impression this sort of thing has happened en masse.

I had a friend who was also waiting on a kidney transplant when I was first diagnosed and in mod 2020 he caught covid and sadly died.

I caught it a few months later 2 weeks after I got the vaccine and was pretty rough but really not too ill. I can only say that the vaccine saved my life otherwise I may not still be here.

[Taf]

It's official. I was offered an LFT as I entered Morrisons. Positive for covid. But the sniffles and slightly sore throat are almost clear.

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Russ

In that case I wouldn’t consider you a covidiot. Real covidiots are those types who have not been personally affected by the side effects but contribute any illness or unexpected death to “the vaccine!!!!”. Like, trawling through social media for any stories about sudden deaths and suddenly they become a “reesurcher” and spout absolute bollards about it.

It’s tragic for anyone who lost a loved one from the side effects. My only involvement with the whole thing is one of my mother’s elderly neighbours, she’s type 1 diabetic and she caught Covid, laying her up for 2 weeks but the doctors said had she not been vaccinated she most likely wouldn’t have survived. I get the impression this sort of thing has happened en masse.

The doctor who's "company's "have yearly medical with said that" its the last person l would have expected to have had a stroke "

[Ramrod]

fyi:

"We found that 73.9% of deaths were directly due to or significantly contributed to by COVID-19 vaccination.
Our data suggest a high likelihood of a causal link between COVID-19 vaccination and death."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...79073824001968


".....suggests that there is a high likelihood of a causal link between COVID-19 vaccines and death from myocarditis."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38221509/

[Stephen]

73.9% of what deaths and how many was that?

What is that site and are the official studies? Some people will believe anything!

Originally Posted by Ramrod

fyi:

"We found that 73.9% of deaths were directly due to or significantly contributed to by COVID-19 vaccination.
Our data suggest a high likelihood of a causal link between COVID-19 vaccination and death."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...79073824001968


".....suggests that there is a high likelihood of a causal link between COVID-19 vaccines and death from myocarditis."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38221509/

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....act_id=4496137

This preprint has been removed by Preprints with The Lancet because the study's conclusions are not supported by the study methodology. Preprints with The Lancet reserves the right to remove a paper that has been posted if we determine that it has violated our screening criteria.

https://vaxopedia.org/2024/06/23/tha...9-vaccination/

this study is simply a review of other studies.

Studies of people who died and who had also recently received a COVID vaccine in the days, weeks, or months before their death.

Studies that don’t actually say that COVID vaccines caused any of the deaths of the patients in their studies…

Over half of the patients in this review come from the Columbia study that found “no relation between the cause of death and vaccination…”

And since those patients had received the CoronaVac (Sinovac) vaccine, which is a whole inactivated COVID-19 virus vaccine, their deaths wouldn’t support the main spike protein theory of the review anyway.

Unlike the mRNA vaccines, the CoronaVac (Sinovac) vaccine actually works by triggering creation of antibodies to the actual virus.

Another 16 came from a German study that concluded that the cause of death was myocarditis in one patient and vaccine-induced immune thrombotic thrombocytopenia (VITT) in two patients.

And although they said that the other 13 clearly had preexisting diseases that caused their deaths, this new Systemic Review by Peter McCullough somehow concluded that 16 of the deaths were caused by COVID vaccines

Peter McCullough added another 22 COVID vaccine deaths to his review from a study from Singapore.

Another study that had concluded that the deaths in their study were not caused by COVID vaccines!

Re Peter A McCullough, one of the authors…

https://www.medpagetoday.com/special...clusives/93936

In several media interviews, McCullough has spread misinformation about COVID-19 vaccines and treatments. He has claimed that there is no scientific reason for healthy people under 50 and those who have recovered from COVID to get the vaccine, and has asserted that 50,000 Americans have died from the shots. According to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), there have been 6,490.

McCullough has also come under fire for promoting the use of hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19. A group of clinicians from Doctors for America, a nonprofit physician organization, wrote in the Dallas Morning Newsopens in a new tab or window last December that they were "deeply concerned after hearing the baseless, misleading commentary" from McCullough, in which he promoted the use of the antimalarial drug for early outpatient COVID-19 care. Randomized controlled trials have repeatedly shown that hydroxychloroquine is not effective to treat or prevent COVID-19, the physicians said.

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/sc...d-19-vaccines/

The article was peer-reviewed and published in Cureus, an open-access online medical journal that prioritizes fast publication and has published problematic studies before, as we will explain.

Update, Feb. 19: In a Substack post, one of the paper’s authors announced that he had been informed by the journal that the editors had decided to retract the article, based on an internal review that found multiple instances of data misrepresentation and incorrect or unsubstantiated claims.

Update, Feb. 26: Cureus retracted the paper on Feb. 26. “Upon further review, the Editors-in-Chief found that the conclusions of this narrative review are considered to be unreliable due to the concerns with the validity of some of the cited references that support the conclusions and a misrepresentation of the cited references and available data,” the journal said.

Many of the review’s authors have a history of spreading COVID-19 or vaccine misinformation. This includes Kirsch, who has repeatedly pushed the incorrect idea that the COVID-19 vaccines have killed millions of people worldwide, as well as Dr. Peter McCullough, Stephanie Seneff and Jessica Rose.

McCullough still recommends treating COVID-19 patients with hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, even though both have been shown not to work against the disease. He also promotes and sells “spike protein detoxification” products for people who have been vaccinated, despite no evidence that vaccinated people need any such detox.

The authors of the review have also been criticized for citing their own studies in the review and for including non-scientific publications as primary sources.

“BTW, the McCullough, Kirsch, etc. Cureus paper that is purportedly a scientific review article references trialsitetnews, epoch times, brownstone, the spectator, children’s health defense, and conservative review as primary sources for some of their points, as well as 11 substack articles/blogs, a youtube/twitter video, and 2 explicit anti-vaccine books, plus a large number of self-citations from the review authors,” Jeffrey S. Morris, director of the division of biostatistics in the department of biostatistics, epidemiology and informatics at the University of Pennsylvania Perelman School of Medicine, wrote on X on Feb. 1.

[Dude111]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Some people will believe anything!

[Stephen]

Yes people that fall for all the conspiracy theory nonsense are embarrassing.

[SnoopZ]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Yes people that fall for all the conspiracy theory nonsense are embarrassing.

I think your comment will go right over Dudes head. Lol

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Hugh

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The research has been re-reviewed and accepted by the Lancet.

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Yes people that fall for all the conspiracy theory nonsense are embarrassing.

This is published research. It's not a conspiracy theory.