Russia has invaded Ukraine
24-02-2022, 16:41
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Re: Russia has begun its full on invasion of Ukraine (Defcon 4)
Stop going on about Farage. He isn’t the topic.
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UK Intelligence reports Ukraine is putting up a staunch resistance, still hold all cities. There have been heavy casualties on both sides though but it remains unclear how many casualties there actually is.
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24-02-2022, 16:48
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Re: Russia has begun its full on invasion of Ukraine (Defcon 4)
Refutation of the common misconception (mentioned by Vlad in his "justification of invasion" speech) that NATO would not expand Eastward.
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“The topic of ‘NATO expansion’ was not discussed at all, and it wasn’t brought up in those years. … Another issue we brought up was discussed: making sure that NATO’s military structures would not advance and that additional armed forces would not be deployed on the territory of the then-GDR after German reunification. Baker’s statement was made in that context… Everything that could have been and needed to be done to solidify that political obligation was done. And fulfilled.”
“The agreement on a final settlement with Germany said that no new military structures would be created in the eastern part of the country; no additional troops would be deployed; no weapons of mass destruction would be placed there. It has been obeyed all these years.”
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This statement is from someone who was there, and instrumental in the treaty negotiations - Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev...
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-fr...achev-says-no/
This article is from over 7 years ago, so history is not being "rewritten" to justify current events (unlike with Putin's speeches).
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24-02-2022, 16:50
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Re: Russia has begun its full on invasion of Ukraine (Defcon 4)
Ukraine is now also calling on West to kick Russia out of SWIFT payment system, says it’s the toughest non-military action they could take to cripple Russian economy.
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24-02-2022, 16:57
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Re: Russia has begun its full on invasion of Ukraine (Defcon 4)
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Originally Posted by Mick
Ukraine is now also calling on West to kick Russia out of SWIFT payment system, says it’s the toughest non-military action they could take to cripple Russian economy.
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Would probably cause issues within the EU, especially Germany, which is why they're in no hurry to do it.
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24-02-2022, 17:01
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Re: Russia has begun its full on invasion of Ukraine (Defcon 4)
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Would probably cause issues within the EU, especially Germany, which is why they're in no hurry to do it.
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Even more issues for British political parties that receive donations from Russia, so can't see the UK being too keen on this either. 
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24-02-2022, 17:06
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Re: Russia has begun its full on invasion of Ukraine (Defcon 4)
President Putin says 'no other way' to defend Russia other than by invading Ukraine says also he doesn’t want to undermine global economic system.
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Tough new sanctions now being applied to Russia. Currently being announced in House of Commons.
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24-02-2022, 17:07
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Re: Russia has begun its full on invasion of Ukraine (Defcon 4)
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Ukraine is now also calling on West to kick Russia out of SWIFT payment system, says it’s the toughest non-military action they could take to cripple Russian economy.
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Hearing that this won't be as crippling as we've been led to believe and the consequences could terrifically backfire, let's hope damp squib, bozo and the others have weighed up all the scenarios correctly
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24-02-2022, 17:09
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Re: Russia has begun its full on invasion of Ukraine (Defcon 4)
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Even more issues for British political parties that receive donations from Russia, so can't see the UK being too keen on this either. |
oh really?
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UK Prime Minister is pushing "very hard" for Russia to be ejected from the SWIFT international payments system. EU are resisting though.
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24-02-2022, 17:16
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Re: Russia has begun its full on invasion of Ukraine (Defcon 4)
Russian firms totally banned from UK financial system.
ALL Russian Airline Aeroflot planes banned from UK Airspace.
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24-02-2022, 17:20
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Re: Russia has begun its full on invasion of Ukraine (Defcon 4)
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oh really?
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I always live in hope. Certainly, Poland and the Baltic states are keen on this type of action. hopefully the pea-shooter comments have spurred the UK on.
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24-02-2022, 17:23
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Re: Russia has begun its full on invasion of Ukraine (Defcon 4)
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oh really?
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Don't waste your time Carth.
It's pathetic in a situation like this that some idiots see it as an opportunity to have childish pops and digs.   
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24-02-2022, 17:30
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Re: Russia has begun its full on invasion of Ukraine (Defcon 4)
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Whether we like it or not, we’re now plunged in to the early stages of World War III
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Should already have had cruise missiles already targeted for inside
ukranian side of russian/ukrain border. First sign of attack missiles should have been launched inside ukranian border,
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24-02-2022, 17:34
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Re: Russia has begun its full on invasion of Ukraine (Defcon 4)
Can I please insist we ALL have a bit of unity, no more them vs. us. Referring to others as idiots doesn’t help.
Unity is needed because I’m watching with my own eyes, innocent Ukrainian people, children being targeted by military jets. Footage shows One plane shoots missiles at a house, with a young child, I’ve never seen anything so chilling. So please. Enough is enough.
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24-02-2022, 17:38
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Re: Russia has begun its full on invasion of Ukraine (Defcon 4)
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What the hell has this got to do with that fool
Last edited by Sirius; 24-02-2022 at 17:42.
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24-02-2022, 17:44
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Re: Russia has begun its full on invasion of Ukraine (Defcon 4)
Large demonstrations have occurred in St Petersburg, Russia - despite warnings it’s government will crack down heavy on any anti-war protesters.
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