25-09-2021, 19:10
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http - how secure is it?
Most sites these days are 'secure' as their web address starts with https.
In contrast, Chrome flags all sites which start with http as being "Not Secure" and advises users not to enter personal information into the website in question.
If all you are going to do is browse and download content, does it make any difference to one's security if the site is not 'secure' due to it being http and not https and therefore not having the padlock?
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25-09-2021, 22:13
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I think its all scare mongering BS.........
Http is as secure as its ever been.......
I really like sites that dont block http for no reason
city-data is one of them...Yes they have https but they allow http traffic also....
www.city-data.com/forum (VBB)
https://www.city-data.com/forum
hipforums is another
www.hipforums.com/forum (Xen1)
https://www.hipforums.com/forum
I have a question..... If these sites can do it w/o issues,why cant all sites??
I have been trying to get my friend who runs sitcomsonline.com/boards?styleid=1077 to enable http but he doesnt think it will work..... I have told him of city-data but he doesnt understand
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26-09-2021, 00:12
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Re: http - how secure is it?
You make me so angry Dude with the amount of clueless Bull Crap you spout about computer and internet security.
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26-09-2021, 01:19
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Im sorry buddy,im just mentioning stuff.... Im not meaning to make anyone mad......
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26-09-2021, 01:23
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Re: http - how secure is it?
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Originally Posted by SnoopZ
You make me so angry Dude with the amount of clueless Bull Crap you spout about computer and internet security.
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Don't get mad, I'm sure he's just trolling because no one is stupid enough to believe in half the stuff he does.
HTTP is a lot less secure, there's a reason HTTPS came out.
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26-09-2021, 02:12
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Re: http - how secure is it?
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Originally Posted by Rillington
In contrast, Chrome flags all sites which start with http as being "Not Secure" and advises users not to enter personal information into the website in question.
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Originally Posted by SnoopZ
You make me so angry Dude with the amount of clueless Bull Crap you spout about computer and internet security.
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There is also a lot of 'clueless Bull Crap' spouted about https and internet security.
'Not Secure' does not mean its bad, which is what they are trying to make out with that message.
Many sites simply do not need to be secure.
A news site for example, or indeed, any informational site.
In fact pretty much any site where you dont need to login, or provide private information.
I deliberately use that term btw, and not 'Personal information' which is a very vague term.
Passwords for example are private, and should always use https when being passed to a website.
On the other hand, there is very little reason to worry about your name being sent over http.
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26-09-2021, 08:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul
Many sites simply do not need to be secure.
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Im sorry Paul Im not ding what that member said (Trolling (They call me that on city-data alot))
I dont think sites like this need to block HTTP,there is no reason.... It just causes connection problems for no reason mate...
Ah well............
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26-09-2021, 09:32
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Re: http - how secure is it?
People also make the mistake of thinking that https means that the site itself is secure. Only communication with the site is secure.
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26-09-2021, 13:55
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Re: http - how secure is it?
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Originally Posted by Dude111
I dont think sites like this need to block HTTP,there is no reason
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Well you're wrong, there is a reason, its as simple as that.
Cable Forum is a site where you have to login (i.e. use a password) and also cookies to keep you logged in.
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26-09-2021, 20:29
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Re: http - how secure is it?
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Originally Posted by Paul
There is also a lot of 'clueless Bull Crap' spouted about https and internet security.
'Not Secure' does not mean its bad, which is what they are trying to make out with that message.
Many sites simply do not need to be secure.
A news site for example, or indeed, any informational site.
In fact pretty much any site where you dont need to login, or provide private information.
I deliberately use that term btw, and not 'Personal information' which is a very vague term.
Passwords for example are private, and should always use https when being passed to a website.
On the other hand, there is very little reason to worry about your name being sent over http.
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Thank you for your reply Paul.
I se it as a warning not to put personal information into a website without the padlock which is why it is good that this forum, for example, the https security and padlock.
With regard to downloading data from a website which does not have the padlock, and whether it be to browse or to keep as say an mp3 file, is there no difference as to whether it is safe to download data from that website and is https only about securing personal information that users give to the site, such as passwords and email addresses?
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
People also make the mistake of thinking that https means that the site itself is secure. Only communication with the site is secure.
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Thank you for your reply.
So when you say communication with the site do you mean passwords/emails addresses or do you mean all forms of communication, such as simply going to the site and streaming/downloading data from that website?
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26-09-2021, 21:13
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Re: http - how secure is it?
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Originally Posted by Paul
Well you're wrong, there is a reason, its as simple as that.
Cable Forum is a site where you have to login (i.e. use a password) and also cookies to keep you logged in.
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Is that why Kaspersky and now, in my case bit defender react to me using cable forum ?
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26-09-2021, 21:44
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Re: http - how secure is it?
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Originally Posted by Itshim
Is that why Kaspersky and now, in my case bit defender react to me using cable forum ?
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Bit defender hasn't reacted to me using Cable Forum??
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26-09-2021, 23:33
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Re: http - how secure is it?
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Originally Posted by alanbjames
Bit defender hasn't reacted to me using Cable Forum??
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Or me.
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26-09-2021, 23:55
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Re: http - how secure is it?
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Originally Posted by Itshim
Is that why Kaspersky and now, in my case bit defender react to me using cable forum ?
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No. Kaspersky is just a pile of crap.
I have no idea about Bit Defender, but you seem to have many issues with your set-up that others do not.
Honestly, just ditch them all.
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27-09-2021, 01:26
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Re: http - how secure is it?
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Originally Posted by Paul
No. Kaspersky is just a pile of crap.
I have no idea about Bit Defender, but you seem to have many issues with your set-up that others do not.
Honestly, just ditch them all.
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*nods in agreement* . . .
They keep flashing warnings up because they have to be 'seen' to be doing the job . . otherwise you'd think they were crap and not buy it again
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