26-07-2021, 10:28
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Re: Britain outside the EU
That's a statute-denier
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26-07-2021, 12:51
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by Hugh
That's a statute-denier
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26-07-2021, 13:01
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Re: Britain outside the EU
I thought that was those groups who want to remove 3s likenesses of old colonial types and such.
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Ah sorry, those are STATUE deniers not STATUTE deniers.
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27-07-2021, 16:19
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Re: Britain outside the EU
Looks like BoJo needs to severely improve relations with the EU or Farage will be breathing down his neck about migrants! Don't forget, due to Brexit, the UK is no longer part of the EU's Dublin Agreement so can no longer repatriate migrants to the first safe country they arrive in.
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Nigel Farage scents opportunity in UK’s migrant boat quandary
Government attempts to control the growing numbers of small boats crossing the Channel have so far failed
..For months, the godfather of Brexit has been filming on the shores of Essex and Kent, decrying the small boats en route to the British Isles and lambasting the government. In the very same places where the Euroscepticism of his UK Independence party first took hold, Farage has sniffed another opportunity for a political backlash — just as he did in the run-up to the 2016 referendum.
...Tougher laws may act as a deterrent, but the solution to this problem lies chiefly in diplomacy, namely by improving the UK’s shortsighted European policy. By taking a bellicose stance towards the EU on resolving the trading mess in Northern Ireland, the UK has worsened relations with the bloc. Paris, therefore, has no reason to help London on an issue that is causing domestic strife.
Ministers are braced for the situation to get worse. One cabinet minister says: “We voted to leave the EU to control our borders. Here is a clear example of it not happening. Unless we get a grip soon, our voters will be unforgiving.”
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https://www.ft.com/content/4de3b1bc-...6-3f7fc5c43dba
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27-07-2021, 16:35
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Re: Britain outside the EU
The answer is simple . . . intercept the boats before they reach our waters, and tow them back to France.
They might also then come into contact with the French navy towing the buggers our way too
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27-07-2021, 16:39
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Re: Britain outside the EU
Why don't we just push them back into French waters when we can? Throw them some food and water, of course.
It might have an inhuman flavour for the bleedin' hearts, but it's what the French have been doing and it might bring matters to a head fairly quickly.
Of course that's not going to happen and Priti will continue blahing.
EDIT: Brother Carth beat me to it!
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27-07-2021, 16:41
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by Carth
The answer is simple . . . intercept the boats before they reach our waters, and tow them back to France.
They might also then come into contact with the French navy towing the buggers our way too
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put them on the Eurostar and send them back.
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27-07-2021, 16:43
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
put them on the Eurostar and send them back.
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Nah - keep them feet wet.
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27-07-2021, 16:56
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Looks like BoJo needs to severely improve relations with the EU or Farage will be breathing down his neck about migrants! Don't forget, due to Brexit, the UK is no longer part of the EU's Dublin Agreement so can no longer repatriate migrants to the first safe country they arrive in.
https://www.ft.com/content/4de3b1bc-...6-3f7fc5c43dba
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I guess once you get a taste for rejecting international agreements you don't like, you can't stop. The 1951 Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees would have an 'optional' feel for some.
What should we do next? I would like us to reject the 1967 Space Treaty and take the Moon in the name of the Queen.
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27-07-2021, 17:04
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
put them on the Eurostar and send them back.
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The British electorate voted to lose this right in 2016 so we can no longer do this.
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27-07-2021, 17:26
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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UK is no longer part of the EU's Dublin Agreement so can no longer repatriate migrants to the first safe country they arrive in.
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Simple answer 1a (which is almost identical to the previous simple answer)
Stop them arriving
Anyway, why do they think they'll be safe here . . .
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27-07-2021, 17:45
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by Carth
Simple answer 1a (which is almost identical to the previous simple answer)
Stop them arriving
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Post #1734 links to the treaty which we signed which means we can't do this.
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Originally Posted by Carth
Anyway, why do they think they'll be safe here . . .
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If they're fleeing persecution, then there's less chance of this happening in the UK than in an unstable country like Syria or Afghanistan.
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27-07-2021, 17:52
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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If they're fleeing persecution, then there's less chance of this happening in the UK than in an unstable country like Syria or Afghanistan.
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. . . or Germany/France/Italy/Spain
Unless you think they're unstable countries too
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27-07-2021, 18:04
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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. . . or Germany/France/Italy/Spain
Unless you think they're unstable countries too
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If they're EU citizens from those countries then they would enter through the usual channels rather than risk their lives in small boats at sea.
They're likely non-EU citizens who've come via those countries.
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27-07-2021, 18:07
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
If they're EU citizens from those countries then they would enter through the usual channels rather than risk their lives in small boats at sea.
They're likely non-EU citizens who've come via those countries.
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You (unsurprisingly) didn't answer the question regarding Germany, France, Italy, Spain being considered unstable countries.
No rush, take your time
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