27-05-2021, 18:18
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Carth
I think the virus did a marvelous job of mutating even with restrictions
If . . IF . . we end up with lock down after lock down, or ongoing restrictions that reduce my enjoyment of life (poor wording but you get the gist), then I'd want all travel to & from the UK stopped - totally - in order to prevent another mutation coming in from elsewhere
Of course, that's never going to happen is it . . so where/when do we draw the line on restrictions & lock downs?
I think most of the Country have had enough already.
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imagine what it would have been like without restrictions…
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27-05-2021, 18:48
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#5387
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Hugh
imagine what it would have been like without restrictions…
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In a couple of weeks we might find out.
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27-05-2021, 19:50
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by jfman
In a couple of weeks we might find out.
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Ffs talk about the end of the world and we are all doomed, negativity at its best from you as usual!
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27-05-2021, 20:00
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Mad Max
Ffs talk about the end of the world and we are all doomed, negativity at its best from you as usual!
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When I see a reason for optimism you will all be the first to know.
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27-05-2021, 20:02
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by jfman
When I see a reason for optimism you will all be the first to know.
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That’ll be never, then.
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27-05-2021, 21:00
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by jfman
When I see a reason for optimism you will all be the first to know.
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Do the figures that we have just now, with the low hospitalisations, the vaccine rollout, not give you at least a wee glimmer of optimism?
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27-05-2021, 21:12
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Mad Max
Do the figures that we have just now, with the low hospitalisations, the vaccine rollout, not give you at least a wee glimmer of optimism?
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These ones?
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So in summary:
• B.1.617.2 has sent cases rising again even in a country with very good vaccine coverage
• But vaccines are keeping cases and hospital admissions largely among the younger age groups whose risk of deaths from Covid is much lower
To be clear, this is not a "so everything’s fine!" thread.
Everything is not fine, and with hospital admissions rising again it’s clear the reopening roadmap needs to be re-evaluated.
But this wave is not like the other waves, and it’s important to keep that in mind.
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Last edited by 1andrew1; 27-05-2021 at 21:16.
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27-05-2021, 21:26
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Re: Coronavirus
The increase in cases is largely confined to the hotspots - for now.
But with people travelling around, that cannot be banked unless the Guvmin actually locks those hotspots down.
Cummings has Boris correctly judged.
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27-05-2021, 21:44
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Mad Max
Do the figures that we have just now, with the low hospitalisations, the vaccine rollout, not give you at least a wee glimmer of optimism?
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Australian estimates put the R number of the Indian variant somewhere between 7 and 8. The numbers fully vaccinated will dent that somewhat but at 60% efficacy there’s enough vulnerable 60+ (or under with underlying health issues) year olds still susceptible for the NHS to be overwhelmed quickly if we open everything back up with no restrictions.
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27-05-2021, 22:07
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
The increase in cases is largely confined to the hotspots - for now.
But with people travelling around, that cannot be banked unless the Guvmin actually locks those hotspots down.
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But the hotspots aren't static
https://covid.joinzoe.com/data gives a good guide a week or so ahead of the official figures
Gloucester and Stratford-on-Avon?
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27-05-2021, 22:44
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by spiderplant
But the hotspots aren't static
https://covid.joinzoe.com/data gives a good guide a week or so ahead of the official figures
Gloucester and Stratford-on-Avon?
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Then we're doomed, sort of.
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27-05-2021, 22:51
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by jfman
There is no living with the virus.
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Well that’s unfortunate for you then.
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27-05-2021, 23:34
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Pierre
Well that’s unfortunate for you then.
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Au contraire, Pierre.
We’ve done this dance before so we can just wait and see. Boris will bottle it from your perspective. Even Pfizering the kids still won’t get to the herd immunity threshold.
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Then we're doomed, sort of.
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That’s my line.
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28-05-2021, 08:49
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Re: Coronavirus
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28-05-2021, 17:19
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Re: Coronavirus
That's the CDC and EMA both approved the Pfizer vaccine for 12-15 year olds in an important step towards the herd immunity threshold.
Interesting to see what we do with our 60 million order for September. Do you give them to the folk that had the Astrazenica vaccine in older age groups or do you acknowledge the role of schools in widespread community transmission and try to drive down infections that way.
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