The Euro 2008 thread

[Uncle Peter]

Hmm I was in Durban and Jo'Burg this time of year a few years ago and the weather was a bit pants. Not cold or anything but dull and miserable. I don't think the players would be complaining though, remember the heat in Mexico 86? (if you're as old as me )

[iadom]

Originally Posted by DocDutch

iadom you sure? as other then 96 we beat england all the time since then

I was talking about the last time we went 'head to head' in South Africa.

England v Holland.

[DocDutch]

ahhh yeah I get ya now and even then we beat the English and the english turned concentration camp on the poor boers

[iadom]

Originally Posted by DocDutch

ahhh yeah I get ya now and even then we beat the English and the english turned concentration camp on the poor boers

You may have won in the group stage, but we won the Final.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by iadom

You may have won in the group stage, but we won the Final.

Track record

Anglo Dutch Wars:
Date 1652-1654
1665-1667
1672-1674
Location North Sea,English Channel,Norway,Italy, The Netherlands
Result Dutch domination of world trade until 1713

[iadom]

This is going way OT. and the conflict I referred to was much later and specifically in South Africa.

So you have not dominated world trade since 1713.

Anyways, who is going to win the final, can we alter the poll?

I would like to see Spain win it but the old adage, "football is a simple game, 22 men kick a ball about for 90 minutes and then the Germans win", seems like being true once more.

Jim.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by iadom

This is going way OT.

Anyways, who is going to win the final, can we alter the poll?

Can a mod please remove the poll, as it was added by an idiot? (oh. I started the thread if that is relevant)

I would like to see Spain win it but the old adage, "football is a simple game, 22 men kick a ball about for 90 minutes and then the Germans win", seems like being true once more.

Jim.

It would be a travesty if Germany win it. They've been poor throughout. Spain deserve to win it. Cmon Spain!

[Shadow Demon UK]

I just heard that tomorrows final is the last game John Motson is going to be commentating on, ever! Good news!

[pedantic]

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

I just heard that tomorrows final is the last game John Motson is going to be commentating on, ever! Good news!

How very dare you! Motty is an institution.

It's not actually his last commentating, but it is his last live work. He'll still be doing match of the day stuff.

Motson will continue to commentate on Match of the Day and Radio 5 Live - "I don't want to make it sound like I'm disappearing for ever," he says - but in opting not to work on the 2010 World Cup, he is aware it is the end of an era somewhat.

[Shadow Demon UK]

Originally Posted by pedantic

How very dare you! Motty is an institution.

It's not actually his last commentating, but it is his last live work. He'll still be doing match of the day stuff.

I think i can quite confidently say that he is the worst commentator i have ever heard in my life. The other night in the Spain v Italy match for the whole of the second half he was calling Senna, Silva. You may think it's an easy mistake to make but seeing that Senna is black and plays defensive midlfield and Silva is white and plays on the wing, it's not that easy to make. And that's just one of the numerous mistakes he makes during matches, that along with pointing the bleeding obvious out all the time, his useless facts he comes out with and constantly missing key moments in the game i find it hard to understand how he's still the BBC's number one. I just thank god David Pleat is on ITV because if those two were put together i would have to avoid every match they commentate on together, Mark Lawernson, although himself not that great, makes it slightly more bareable listening to Motson.

Bad news about the match of the day stuff

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

I think i can quite confidently say that he is the worst commentator i have ever heard in my life. The other night in the Spain v Italy match for the whole of the second half he was calling Senna, Silva. You may think it's an easy mistake to make but seeing that Senna is black and plays defensive midlfield and Silva is white and plays on the wing, it's not that easy to make. And that's just one of the numerous mistakes he makes during matches, that along with pointing the bleeding obvious out all the time, his useless facts he comes out with and constantly missing key moments in the game i find it hard to understand how he's still the BBC's number one. I just thank god David Pleat is on ITV because if those two were put together i would have to avoid every match they commentate on together, Mark Lawernson, although himself not that great, makes it slightly more bareable listening to Motson.

Bad news about the match of the day stuff

Actually, the BBC have a little bit of a habit of employing commentators who get things wrong, but at least Murray Walker was entertaining (if not always correct). Motty doesn't have that.

I personally thought the Turkey/Germany game was far better when the BBC lost vision and BBC one switched to the BBC Five Live coverage of the game.

[pedantic]

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

I think i can quite confidently say that he is the worst commentator i have ever heard in my life. The other night in the Spain v Italy match for the whole of the second half he was calling Senna, Silva. You may think it's an easy mistake to make but seeing that Senna is black and plays defensive midlfield and Silva is white and plays on the wing, it's not that easy to make. And that's just one of the numerous mistakes he makes during matches, that along with pointing the bleeding obvious out all the time, his useless facts he comes out with and constantly missing key moments in the game i find it hard to understand how he's still the BBC's number one. I just thank god David Pleat is on ITV because if those two were put together i would have to avoid every match they commentate on together, Mark Lawernson, although himself not that great, makes it slightly more bareable listening to Motson.

Bad news about the match of the day stuff

Give me a maverick football commentator any day of the week, it adds to the entertainment value, in my opinion. Motson has had me in stitches some times. Much better than the high pitch squeals of the newly appointed Jacqui Oatley, and the less said about Johnathan Pearce, the better.

[iadom]

Anyone has got to be better than that Man Utd hating Liverpool fanboy Alan Green.

Jim.

[danielf]

Ballack might miss the final due to a calf injury

[Uncle Peter]

Motty does get on my wick and always has done. Especially the way he inserts extra letters in players' names like calling Xavi: Xarvi or Dietman Hamann: Harmann.