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Old 26-05-2022, 08:09   #2452
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

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Originally Posted by Mick View Post
Wow, what a pathetic remark. Do better FFS
I think we can do better than dismissing anyone who questions Johnson’s honesty, integrity or capability as having “hatred” for him. The reality he just isn’t very good, and even worse for those on the other side of the fence from me he’s not very conservative.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
.Many (not all) of those same people try to leap to Sir Kier Starmer's defence, despite the fact that his breach of the rules appears to be far greater than BJ's, because his event happened AFTER work, and not between work events. If that turns out to be true, he will be deserving of the fine that he gets.
An entirely subjective analysis.

And on the other hand if/when he’s cleared it will be demonstrably the case that according evidence held Johnson broke the rules and Starmer did not.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
The cult comprises the people who are part of the campaign to unseat BJ. That is what this is all about.
Do you genuinely believe that, OB? Nobody just wants a better PM? One who isn’t a liar? One who does have attention to detail to understand the agreements he backed? One that doesn’t abandon manifesto commitments when it’s politically expedient? One who won’t max out the country credit card to save his own skin?

People back him because of one policy delivered in a haphazard manner that makes them blind to his many obvious failings. It’s quite tragic really.
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