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Originally Posted by Pierre
You and most other Sunday afternoon Westerners with their luxury beliefs that don’t live in the region are only piping up because it’s Israel. If Egypt or Jordan were doing this you’d say absolutely sod-all.
I know for a fact don’t give a toss about Yemen and the deaths and famine caused by Saudi Arabia….because no Jews were involved in those deaths.
and if Egypt suddenly rolled into Israel, and was joined by Hezbollah, and Islamists from Jordan, that went on to invade Israel and massacre Jews and try to eradicate the Israeli state.
You’d probably celebrate it, with all your mates on a Sunday march in London.
Israel will do what they have to do, regardless of what anyone thinks and regardless of other opinions, because if they don’t. It will happen again, and again.
If you can’t see that, then I can’t help you anymore.
This is beyond appeasing america or other other allies, or the UN. America is a friend of Israel’s but Israel is not their puppy dog, and the US know this and will only go so far.
Israel will carry on until they are satisfied that they can stop. Not before.
This unfortunate incident will not change anything. It will be in the headlines for a few days, and will be forgotten as soon as the next incident occurs, or some other major thing happens globally.
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It's not a luxury belief to think Palestinians have a right to die of starvation in their own land or be ethnically cleansed from it as some of Netanyahu's coalition partners have called for. To describe opposition human suffering of hundreds of thousands of people in such a glib manner says more about your opinion of Palestinians than mine of Israelis.
Your descent into the gutter to smear us all as anti-semitic is the last desperate haven for those defending the disgusting actions of the Israeli government. We see through you.
Israel may well continue for some time, eroding what little standing they have left and dragging America's moral authority down with them. I'll be right here condemning them, their lies, their deceit, their crimes, every step of the way.
This war might be good for the short term share prices in the military industrial complex but will do nothing for the security of Israel or those that enabled them in the long run.
The straw man of an Egyptian, or any other hypothetical invasion of Israel is irrelevant. However, to give it a little latitude - if they did so, systematically destroying synagogues, hospitals, destroying half the buildings in Israel and pushing two thirds of the population to the border as the only mechanism for ensuring the safety and security of their Palestinian cousins what would the difference be (besides their religion and the colour of their skin)? Would that be bad things happening in the "fog of war"? Nation states doing "what needed to be done" to secure the region?
Or, and I'd propose more likely, a straight up case of ethnic cleansing. The opposite view: Instead of stating the obvious it could cloud everything in opaque and military terms, viewing everything through a narrow prism of one single event, blaming one side and defending the other with total disregard for the lives lost and livelihoods destroyed in a revenge campagn. That's a Sunday afternoon luxury belief right there.