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Originally Posted by idi banashapan

Yep, all true points.

However, Macs in an enterprise environment is a bad plan as it stands. It still tends to be mainly businesses in a design field, or strangely, Estate Agents, who use them in my experience. There will of course be a few out there who want a Mac because they see others with them in the coffee shop. But these days, in terms or ability, there's no real benefit to having them in the workplace over a PC.

Macs are not designed with business or enterprise LAN or WAN in mind. Windows is still king there. But for home use, for the average Joe, Apple products tie in so neatly to one another. The experience is pretty much seamless without the need for 3rd party apps. That means when a vulnerability is found, it can be patched across all platforms straight away, which is what Apple did last week.

No OS is ultra secure. Some though, are more secure than otehrs purely for the nature of their implementation. MS need to make a one-size-fits-as-many-as-it-can OS. They do a fine job. And it's not an easy job. But through no real fault of their own, it does mean their systems are likely to have more holes which can be remotely exploited.

I use a mix of Windows, Apple and Linux. My personal opinion and feel is that Windows is most vulnerable. At the very least, as you correctly mentioned, it is targetted more, and so more likely to fall victim.

I also feel Windows has been really going down the pan over the last few years;

• The newer taskbar is evidently a rip of Apple's dock, but poorly done. It's not even far off Plank in Linux (which is still better), or Ubuntu's side bar launcher. The Start button itself keeps moving about, meaning any muscle memory for getting to things quickly is lost just by opening an app you haven't pinned. Hell, I can't even put the taskbar at the top of my screen anymore! Why not?!
• It's a confused, hybrid OS with menu systems that throw up Windows 7 era option screens amonst a mix of flat, seemingly crayon-designed newer menu systems.
• Finding the option I want within this miriade of menus seems to be getting increasingly difficult. For one example, setting sample rates on audio outputs is now tucked away behind giant texted controls when it used to be right there, readily available.
• Windows setup asks me if I want more relevent, targeted adverts in the OS - well no, I don't actually want any.
• MS keep mucking about witht the Start menu - leave it alone. The changes don't actually add any added benefit over the older iterations. It's not harder to get where I need to be. I'm all for change, but it just seems MS are making changes for the sake of making them, not because it is needed.

Yes I know, the above are some pretty first world issues, but where MS used to rule all these areas, they've lost it in my opinion through a lack of good design choices or innovation (which again, they used to be brilliant at).

So there are a number of reasons, of me, why I prefer the Apple eco-system over Windows. And whilst I love Linux, it's still a way off in terms of compatibility levels that both Windows and Apple deliver. Ever tried watching a video in your browser on Linux whilst also doign somethign else? Prime example of a simple GPU integration that's just not quite there yet. That said, for non-intensive or specialist tasks like Photoshop, I do now tend to use Linux over Windows.

Most devs/engineers/full stack devs call them what you will, want & use Mac

BTW IBM manages 10,000 MacOS devices with JAMF. At my place my teams manage 3,000 MacOS devices with JAMF & 2,800 with a combination of AD & SCCM.

Their response to the recent 0 day is nothing particularly to be impressed by. especially when take into consideration apples supported method of deployment and installation of updates. The same applies to security tooling such as Netskope, Umbrella, WebTitan, GPCS (Prisma) CrowdStrike all present either configuration, deployment or management challenges.

Apple are wanting to expand further into the enterprise space and have been for some time it's fairly recent purchase of Fleetsmith is testament to this.However, they need to clearly segregate between the home user & the enterprise user and fix the significant issues at the enterprise side.

Their silicon however... is spot on but again, presents significant challenges to the enterprise.

I'm agnostic and use either Windows 11, MacOS or iOS depending on where i am and what i'm doing.