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Originally Posted by pip08456
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That’s a standard Russian propaganda line - the ‘existential threat’ Russia is fighting against. Basically they want their population to think they’re in a war against Nato that has essentially been plotted by the UK, financed by the USA and fought by Ukraine.
The way things are right now Ukraine certainly has a very good chance of restoring its 1991 borders (i.e. getting Crimea back as well as those parts of the Donbas invaded by Russia in 2014).
The Russian Federation itself could, in the medium term, go the same way as the USSR did. Some commentators have seized on Pregozhin’s admission that Wagner alone lost 20,000 fighting in Bakhmut just over the last 6 months. The entire USSR lost 15,000 in Afghanistan in 10 years. Those losses were borne by a total population of more than 300,000, while Russia today has 140,000.
Russia is facing profound demographic and economic upheaval for years, and when that starts causing unrest in its provinces, it will realise that it no longer has an effective army to put down rebellion. If you’re a separatist in Siberia or anywhere else far from Moscow, this is a very good time to be making plans. So in that sense Russia itself could be ‘lost’, but no, not as a direct result of Ukrainian or Nato invasion.