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Originally Posted by nffc
This surely isn't as clear cut though - or the same for everyone.
The covid vaccinations do come with risks and side effects, this is common knowledge, some of them are detailed in the leaflet they give out, some of them have been reported on and known to be true, indeed they stopped giving out AZ to younger people because the risk of blood clotting was worse than the risk of getting covid and they had other vaccines. And there is a link with the mRNA vaccines and myocarditis.
Usually with younger people, unless they have any underlying conditions which might push them higher up the vaccination queue, the risk of covid infection is low, so they will get it but usually not seriously and recover after a few days with no ill effects. Vaccination doesn't prevent illness and simply gives the immune system a head start so this is just preventing illness which is more severe which this age group is unlikely to be massively affected by. So if the illness is the same whether vaccinated or not how much use is the vaccine and what is it preventing? It's there where you introduce side effects. If you're otherwise healthy and the vaccine is unlikely to change the course of a covid illness but the reaction to the vaccine might give you a heart condition then what's worse? I don't necessarily agree with it but that's where the crux of the argument comes from.
Clearly in older people and those with conditions getting a severe covid infection would cause issues the argument is much clearer.
And all the omicron strains seem to have immune escape (indeed some from each other) so even people with the BA.1 vaccine can still get whatever's coming round...
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It is only a [serious] argument if you can provide authoritative, peer reviewed evidence that shows, beyond reasonable doubt, that Covid is less dangerous than the vaccine for the age/risk group you are focussing on. I see no evidence seriously being debated & concluded in the public domain.
Don't forget, repeat serious infection from Covid, infections that are mitigated by vaccines, risk Long Covid which can include long term degradation of your immune system with all the consequences that entails.