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Old 17-05-2008, 00:09   #28
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Re: Freesat: Free satellite TV by BBC and ITV tv to launch!

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Originally Posted by the-cable-guy View Post
? how are they doing no one any favours ? Channel 4 have a contract with Sky concerning the encryption of their channels (as five do) & to be fair you cant expect Sky to waver this because BBC & ITV have released an EPG. most ppl that i know (who are not technically minded) know how to add other channels & if their subscribing to Sky or have a FTV viewing card then why would they care when their getting those channels already ? also none of those integrated/ethernet enabled tv's/receivers are on the market yet so you cant compare Sky's equipment to equipment that isint even available yet.

---------- Post added at 22:30 ---------- Previous post was at 22:27 ----------

for anyone that doesnt know how here is a guide on how to add other channels on Sky: http://www.vowles-home.demon.co.uk/Sat/SkyITV.htm ignore the bit about ITV, which is out of date but how to add other channels isint.

---------- Post added at 22:33 ---------- Previous post was at 22:30 ----------

& heres tuning details for Channel 4's FTA feeds:

Channel 4: http://en.kingofsat.net/find.php?que...l&filtre=Clear

More 4 & More 4 + 1: http://en.kingofsat.net/find.php?que...l&filtre=Clear

E4 UK & E4 UK + 1: http://en.kingofsat.net/find.php?que...l&filtre=Clear

Film 4 & Film 4 +1 (which are FTA anyway so viewers with Sky receivers dont need to manually tune the Film 4 channels in): http://en.kingofsat.net/find.php?que...l&filtre=Clear
Not very long ago, none of the 'main' UK channels, including the BBC, were FTA. All of them were paying Sky for encryption services and the *only* way to get any of them via satellite in the UK was to pay Sky for a subscription. This has entirely changed, *because* of moves made by the BBC and ITV and now Freesat. Sky has responded to the competition and the result is, it is no longer necessary to pay Sky to get the main UK channels by satellite.

I hear what you're saying about your mates' ability to tune their own STBs but I'm not convinced that your circle of friends and acquaintances is anything like a representative sample of UK households, so it doesn't prove anything.

The fact that the ethernet kit hasn't come to market yet really isn't relevant - it is not just a theoretical part of the Freeview spec, the kit is coming. That Panasonic TV was demonstrated on launch day and it has scheduled months to go on sale later this year. All they're doing now is manufacturing sufficient stock.

I think you're clutching at straws now: I'm assuming you admit the ethernet functionality and integrated Sat receiver are actually quite nice things to have, and that's why the only thing you can say against them is that they're 'not out yet'. So tell me: which is better, a satellite receiver with a broadband return path for interactive services, or one with dial-up?
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