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Originally Posted by jfman
Israel has been killing aid workers for decades and will be killing them for decades more. Only killing innocent Palestinians is a greater certainty from their military “tactics”.
The investigations into previous ones clearly done little to inform decision making to prevent this massacre, nor the massacre of women and children up and down the Gaza Strip under the guise of “targeting” Hamas.
The only interesting thing about this is the hole in the car roof that demonstrates the kind of precision weapons that Israel could use. Which is interesting when held against the rubble that remains of many buildings, including hospitals, where different ammunition with used with a callous disregard for the inevitable cost in innocent human lives.
Murder has a specific definition, so I don’t use that word in this case, however Israel absolutely permitted their deaths and deemed it a price worth paying until they saw the passports.
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You and most other Sunday afternoon Westerners with their luxury beliefs that don’t live in the region are only piping up because it’s Israel. If Egypt or Jordan were doing this you’d say absolutely sod-all.
I know for a fact don’t give a toss about Yemen and the deaths and famine caused by Saudi Arabia….because no Jews were involved in those deaths.
and if Egypt suddenly rolled into Israel, and was joined by Hezbollah, and Islamists from Jordan, that went on to invade Israel and massacre Jews and try to eradicate the Israeli state.
You’d probably celebrate it, with all your mates on a Sunday march in London.
Israel will do what they have to do, regardless of what anyone thinks and regardless of other opinions, because if they don’t. It will happen again, and again.
If you can’t see that, then I can’t help you anymore.
This is beyond appeasing america or other other allies, or the UN. America is a friend of Israel’s but Israel is not their puppy dog, and the US know this and will only go so far.
Israel will carry on until they are satisfied that they can stop. Not before.
This unfortunate incident will not change anything. It will be in the headlines for a few days, and will be forgotten as soon as the next incident occurs, or some other major thing happens globally.
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Was there evidence that there were innocent civilians in harms way when they took three attempts at eliminating the convoy for the sake of one person who might have been in there?
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What if the intelligence said Hamas was definitely in there?
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By December, Israel had dropped more bombs on Gaza than there are Hamas militants. Now it might just get that Israel aren't very good at this, however Occam's razor (and tens of thousands of dead and injured innocent women and children) would suggest it's not about the militants.
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It is totally about wiping out Hamas
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Israel aren't entitled to submit Gaza to unlimited human suffering for as long as they think Hamas might pose a threat. That has no basis in morality or international law.
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Israel are removing Hamas as a threat