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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
In defence of jfman, he is merely warning people to question what we are officially told.
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He's jumped onto something which wasnt said though.
It does seem somewhat odd that all of the omicron variants are still omicron. I don't know how they work out which lineages are worthy of a new name, maybe they got sick of doing it. But they do still have names and yes BA.1 is different from BA.2 which was going round at the same time then we had BA.4 and BA.5 and now we have a few more and it's each of those which has a slight immune escape from others and vaccine immunity etc which is causing the spikes but that's probably normal. But they are all still omicron. I guess there's less scare factor from popping new names all over the place, that or they aren't that mutated.
The point I was making, which was clear enough for you and others to get, except one person - is that the variants in china are the same variants going round the rest of the world. So what difference does it make? We have it here anyway, so some people with covid coming over from china isn't going to stop it coming in here so popping them into quarantine isn't going to do anything useful because it's already here. If they had different variants which somehow had differing outcomes in terms of severity or immune escape then the answer would be possibly different but in general these restrictions haven't stopped it yet so why would they now? Look at how the world responded to omicron initially yet it still ended up everywhere didn't it?
As for the immunity question, which again one person seems to fail to understand - we do in fact have significant population immunity in the sense that pretty much everyone here has either received doses of a covid vaccine or has had covid or probably both. But this is always going to be partial in a virus which is evolving with immune escape. So yes people are going to get it multiple times because most people (especially those under 50) haven't even been vaccinated with an omicron spike protein (which will be BA.1 not even BA.5 or one of the newer variants) and even those who have previous immunity from an omicron infection aren't necessarily protected from newer variants. This is how the immune system and antibodies work. If the virus can get in faster than the immune system can respond you still get ill. But the response from vaccines or previous infection means the immune system can usually catch up quicker meaning the illness is likely to be less serious or not happen at all. That's how it always works, people who understand immunity as a concept don't need it explaining to them after all.
So no, we shouldn't believe the media line on anything because they aren't trustworthy and the gov have added a fair amount of scare factor to the way people act too, but finding the facts and making your own conclusions...