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Originally Posted by Maggy

Some people have forgotten how to debate.Assertion is not debate. One needs to backup assertions with facts.Without links or guidance to the info it will fail to continue into debate.

Disagree. The bleedin’ obvious can always be debated. The bleedin’ obvious is already a fact.


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Originally Posted by BenMcr

What sources does that actually leave that you would trust then?

The Torygraph for one; never wrong. Farage for another and for a different reason. On medical matters, the BMJ. On the bleedin’ obvious, the common sense of others, some of whom just enjoy being difficult.


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Originally Posted by Hugh

You appear to be confusing "inefficient" with "increasing demand, ageing population, half the number of hospital beds, not enough clinical and support staff, the Government removing Nurses Bursaries"…

Sometimes the "bleeding obvious" is just a misinformed opinion - like a large number of issues, people try to reduce very complex issues to simple problems, when this is not, in fact, true.

What are you on about? The list you provided is evidence to support my evidence - namely the bleedin’ obvious that the NHS is on its knees.

I never mentioned “inefficient” in the post to which you replied.