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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
That’s only because we are living in a relatively free society.
We need to get out of that mentality of controlling people. That’s what communists love to do.
I was interested to see in your post, unless you meant ‘and’ instead of ‘or’, you cite one of the reasons for a lockdown as increased transmissibility.
The reason given by the government and by the scientists for the original lockdown was to protect the NHS. Yet you can see from the government’s own figures that hospitalisations continue to decrease while transmissibility is still at high levels. This virus will not die off until it runs out of people to infect successfully, which is why lockdowns are effective only to control the speed of the spread. We have succeeded in prolonging the period during which the virus continues to be problematical by enforcing restrictions. This is the thing that people are finding difficult to grasp.
What we should be concentrating on is having effective vaccines and/or antivirals administered in a timely and efficient manner and educating the population on the benefits. As far as the extremely vulnerable are concerned, they should continue to be advised to shield as much as possible and educated on the best means of protecting themselves.
That is as far as we need to go now. We have to get over this ‘lock ‘em up’ mentality.
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I suppose that’s because it’s a case of either bed or dead.
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I think you've failed to get the full gist of my point.
lockdowns were implemented to slow the spread of the virus, protect the NHS from being overwhelmed and to allow the boffins time to develop the virus.
so, Omicron may
a) be more transmissible than delta (appears to be)
b) cause a more seriousness illness or increased death rate than delta
c) possess a significant immunity escape (this is confirmed)
d) possess a significant vaccine escape.
The only way we will see lockdown again is if A + B + D occurs because that is what will lead to the NHS becoming overloaded again as we are in essence at stage 1 all over again.
IF (and it's a big if) Omicron is parts A + B + D allowing the virus to run freely through the country would do much much more economic damage than another lockdown. Think about it
Primary & Secondary care collapse due to volume of patients
Emergency services staff levels severely diminished due to staff shortages
Food producers
Manufacturers
etc
etc
Vaccines may have to be tweaked, if so that takes time, approx 100 days to develop, that does not include, testing, manufacturing, shipping and getting them into peoples bodies.
turning to this
'We have succeeded in prolonging the period during which the virus continues to be problematical by enforcing restrictions. This is the thing that people are finding difficult to grasp.'
Covid without restrictions = car accelerates to 90mph and hits wall
Covid with restrictions = car accelerates to 90mph, then brakes, hits wall at 60mph
The wall in this case can equal the population, or the economy. the end result is there's less damage.
Doing it your way as in allowing the virus to rip through the population would achieve two main things
1. A completely destroyed economy
2. A completely destroyed health service.
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Originally Posted by Pierre
what's your point?
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Unless im mistaken you were talking about eating, smoking & drinking and that the government didnt get involved there in regards to the risk of peoples health
(Paraphrasing)