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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

it's atempting to draw comparison to a particular period of time where there's no comparison to be drawn.


The only thing nearest possible comparison would be with the spanish flu, they had restrictions, guess what, they didnt last !!

'When a flu outbreak at a nearby military barracks first spread into the St. Louis civilian population, Starkloff wasted no time closing the schools, shuttering movie theaters and pool halls, and banning all public gatherings. There was pushback from business owners, but Starkloff and the mayor held their ground. When infections swelled as expected, thousands of sick residents were treated at home by a network of volunteer nurses.'

From https://www.history.com/news/spanish...esponse-cities

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As stated before, lockdowns were implemented to ensure that the NHS wasn't overwhelmed and wouldn't suffer collapse and to give the scientists time to develop vaccines.

Now, and as I've stated before, the only reason we will go back to lockdown is if a variant is discovered and spreads that is a) more transmissible than Delta b) causes more serious illness and death than Delta and c) has a significant immune or vaccine escape mechanism.

In such a scenario lockdown may be needed until such times as the scientists can get updated vaccines developed, tested, approved, manufactured and delivered into the arms of people. because guess what, should the above be true there's a risk of collapsing the NHS again.

If getting our freedoms back is a big enough incentive to getting the vaccine then why are so many people not having it? Countries have tried the carrot, there comes the time when the threat of a stick may need to be made.


Also, as said before, you're not free, you can't just do whatever you want, whenever you want.

The British as a nation are apathetic, they may break the rules but there wont be mass protests.

That’s only because we are living in a relatively free society.

We need to get out of that mentality of controlling people. That’s what communists love to do.

I was interested to see in your post, unless you meant ‘and’ instead of ‘or’, you cite one of the reasons for a lockdown as increased transmissibility.

The reason given by the government and by the scientists for the original lockdown was to protect the NHS. Yet you can see from the government’s own figures that hospitalisations continue to decrease while transmissibility is still at high levels. This virus will not die off until it runs out of people to infect successfully, which is why lockdowns are effective only to control the speed of the spread. We have succeeded in prolonging the period during which the virus continues to be problematical by enforcing restrictions. This is the thing that people are finding difficult to grasp.

What we should be concentrating on is having effective vaccines and/or antivirals administered in a timely and efficient manner and educating the population on the benefits. As far as the extremely vulnerable are concerned, they should continue to be advised to shield as much as possible and educated on the best means of protecting themselves.

That is as far as we need to go now. We have to get over this ‘lock ‘em up’ mentality.

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Originally Posted by nffc

People who are electrocuted don't tend to need any treatment though...

I suppose that’s because it’s a case of either bed or dead.