Kymmy many thanks for that - it's all very interesting and you obviously know your stuff. My set-up is that we have a 32inch original Phillips pixel plus which is now about past it's sell by date. So when this new Panasonic with the built in freesat came on the scene - it seemed appropriate to have a look. in the bedroom we have a JVC 26 inch HD ready and in the kitchen a 20inch Sony also HD ready. Silly me - I thought that With one sky dish I could get freesat on them all! The picture on the JVC and the Sony is already great but if I didn't have the sky dish facility - I wouldn't have the range of 80 or so channels that would be available. I'll have to have a serious think about this. All serious TV viewing is done in the lounge so I may just stick with that one outlet. I'll keep you posted. many thanks again regards harford