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BRIANTJ 12-10-2023 14:32

Openreach Flying Cables Across Private Land
 
Has Openreach flown a cable across your property and not provided you with any information on objecting to the cable? Some parts of Openreach seem not aware of the latest legislation regarding their rights and OBLIGATIONS when flying cables over private property. It has taken me months to get a cable moved and this is some information which may help in getting a cable you object to moved.

First, based on my experience, don’t waste time with their complaints procedure which is tedious, difficult and obstructive and you’ll be responded to with a barrage of technical and legal bullshit telling you why they have flown the cable legally and why it can’t be moved. Send a signed for letter to the CEO and if you get nowhere, raise it with your MP.

The applicable legislation is Schedule 1 of the Digital Economy Act 2017. This supercedes parts of the Communications Act 2003. Openreach has to comply with paragraph 75 which is a duty to attach a notice. This should provide an address to which you can send you objection to the cable. Openreach committs an offence if this notice is not provided. Openreach apparently haven’t instructed their engineers to leave these notices. If they don’t leave a notice, write to Openreach and ask for the details that should have been on this note. The right to object is described in Part 12 which is paragraphs 78 to 81.

If the cable is impacting your enjoyment of your land and it would be possible for the cable to re-routed without the re-routing resulting in another landowner being impacted and without Openreach incurring substantial additional cost, the county court can instruct Openreach to move it and there is provision within the legislation for the county court to award you costs.

Paul 12-10-2023 18:22

Re: Openreach Flying Cables Across Private Land
 
There must surely be exemptions to this, a huge number of people are supplied service overhead (from poles) and technically, those cables likely pass over other peoples gardens. Mine for example crosses over two other gardens.

jfman 12-10-2023 19:28

Re: Openreach Flying Cables Across Private Land
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36161852)
There must surely be exemptions to this, a huge number of people are supplied service overhead (from poles) and technically, those cables likely pass over other peoples gardens. Mine for example crosses over two other gardens.

I think trying to retrospectively move stuff that’s been up there for years (decades) would be nigh on impossible. Not quite sure how impact on “enjoyment of the land” would be demonstrated either.

Jaymoss 12-10-2023 19:41

Re: Openreach Flying Cables Across Private Land
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36161857)
I think trying to retrospectively move stuff that’s been up there for years (decades) would be nigh on impossible. Not quite sure how impact on “enjoyment of the land” would be demonstrated either.

you see it with all the drone morons recently that you do not own the air space

adzii_nufc 28-10-2023 11:22

Re: Openreach Flying Cables Across Private Land
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36161852)
There must surely be exemptions to this, a huge number of people are supplied service overhead (from poles) and technically, those cables likely pass over other peoples gardens. Mine for example crosses over two other gardens.

Aye, you're correct. Plenty of other regulations and guidelines that are pages long that allow us to span through properties.

Some key ones though like obtaining wayleave if we can't clear the building itself by 1.5-2m. Some you'll obviously find attached and bouncing off a building to reach a destination. You will find cases where a homeowner can successfully challenge a new aerial cable though.

Ultimately though it's still not a huge deal but it's a growing one. If an alt-net has built and opened a pon in the area and you've already got say 2 or 3 copper drops flying over your gardens, you could then expect 2 or 3 more fibre drops because the alt-net isn't allowed to remove existing copper. This alongside the amount of equipment now found on poles is stirring discontent.


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