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Been following this 16 year old named Billy Loughnane, noticed him last week and backed him on Saturday where he rode Embour to win at 33-1 and then decided to go through the card with him at Wolverhampton on Monday where he managed 3 winners, a place and 2 loses, quite an achievement and he's now gone to the US to continue his riding education albeit in non competitive surrounds, one to watch and keep an eye on

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The trouble is every trainer will use his claim while he has got it so he will have to turn professional then but he certainly is a great young talent.

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His dad is a trainer so he should look after him, he's going to be in America doing non competitive racing stuff for a while anyway

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l am hoping Cheltenham is on on Saturday as there was a rumour that is is touch and go on whether it would go ahead.

That would be disappointing as l fancy several on that card.

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Me to, already picked them and got early prices, I'll probably do some more early Saturday morning if I do I'll post them here. Big meeting, nine races

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Just got the latest update from Cheltenham and there is a precautionary inspection tomorrow at midday.

They are still quietly confident about Saturdays meeting but in the event of it being off Sunday would be a likely second option if needed according to the update.

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Young Billy is back in the saddle at Lingfield, nothing really jumping out at Cheltenham though

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l have several who might go well today TD.

The Late Legend e/w Doncaster 15.50
Give Me A Cuddle e/w Doncaster 12.55
Twig e/w Doncaster 14.40
Tea For Three to win Doncaster 15.15
Can You Call e/w Cheltenham 15.35
Malinello e/w Cheltenham 12.10

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:tu:

I like Cloth Cap in 15:15

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Yes l had considered him.

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The old boy is getting on a bit now though, could be the race of the day, there's a couple of others I like the look of running there to

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Billy got 4 places and 2 outside the cash in his 6 races today, for anyone interested

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The trouble is now the secrets out every horse he rides will be pretty short in the betting.

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Quite like

Minister for Magic and Tabaretta at Wolverhampton this evening

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l did like one in the last tonight Master Oliver but he is a NR.

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Perfect Gentlemen in the six o'clock at Kempton looks good if somewhat short

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l like Man Made of Smoke TD in that race.

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Irish Gold Cup day, small field with a stand out favourite Stattler could do something ew though

I'm reminded of Baaed last race, he was a similar price 2/9 iirc and I had him in a six fold, the first four won including a 33/1, the cash out offered was over £1000 and there is baaed the shoo-in, and the fecker didn't even place and protektat did in the next race, still that's racing

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l was put off by Stattlers race as it only had 7 runners as l like 8 in a race for Each Way.

Magna Sam has made my day a winning one at a big price at Musselburgh.

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Mr Tinks favourite sayings is Tickety Boo, it ran the other week, did he back it...no, came home at 25/1. However today He backed Scot's Poet at Musselburgh 16/1 at least today, clawed something back.:)

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Well done to Mr Tinks Tinky.:)

Nothing worse then not backing a big price winner either.

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:tu:

Had Ermesnide at linfield yesterday 14/1 no real biggies today though, a 4/1 and a few places today

Got Arab Cinder in the last at Kempton

Me to re the e/w, lets be honest at 1/5 of the price anything under 4-1 is a losing bet, should've done a forcast with hindsight

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l must be psychic as l had Ermesnide yesterday as it was 13/2 but BOG gave me the 14/1.

Winklevi in the last for me.

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What do you think of lightship in the 7:30 kempton?

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l think he has a good chance TD.

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Like the look of shot of love 7:40 Newcastle

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l can't say l fancy much in the lucky last at Gosforth Park.

l like Umneyaat in the 7.10 and Mighty Power in the 6.40.

Well at least l have had one winner today as Sarsons Risk came in at 12/1 for me as l got the price last night before it was gambled on this morning.

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I have mighty power to but fear he's on the drift

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Heard a whisper about historique reconse in the Mare's at Cheltenham but she's not in the ante post betting yet, this is why I've all but given up with ante post even with NRNB it's bs

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The Mares hurdle looks like its going to be pretty hot this year as l have had some Ante Post bets with NRNB.

Stattler - Gold Cup 15/1
Mahlers Mission - National Hunt Chase 33/1
Its For Me - Champion Bumper 10/1

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Mares Novices. Mahlers come right in, I got 1,2 3 in the gold cup last year and didn't have it as a reverse forecast, will this year

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Yeah thats a tricky one, the Mares Novice, as l have not really got a strong fancy there currently.

Well done last years on your Gold Cup 1,2, 3 as l think the favourite is beatable this year as that stiff hill will be his undoing imho.

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Well a guy I worked with got the first four in the national 10 years ago but didn't have it as a forcast so I've done a reverse one ever since, normally get 4 out of 5 which is just annoying, 123&5, has happened a couple of times which is the worst and one year was 234&5, the absolute worst one was when Ruby Walsh came 3rd as I'd backed him but not in the forcast so had 124&5, if they let you do four out of five I'd have retied long ago! I'll be doing the same in the Gold Cup now, it's not as easy a race for me to predict though so it might not become a regular thing

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l have done well in Nationals in the past few years as l picked Noble Yeats last year at 40s and l picked the Irish National winner at 66s.

Mum and brother were happy as they always ask me for a few tips at weekends and l always give them horses l do myself.

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Please PM me any dead certs Den, that are around 10-1. Cheers :)

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Just to specify there are no dead certs in horse racing or in any other sports Mr K.;)

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The Grand National trial at Haydock is best ignored imo, none of the winners ever do anything on the big day, that said it is an incredibly hard race for the horses and one of the only genuine trial events worthy of the name

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l did the 2nd and 3rd E/W and lo and behold they got nutted by the winner who pulled up last time..

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I've always liked Snow Leopardess, would've backed her if I'd been forced to pick one, just had a 4-1 winner at Newcastle, had Shishkin to win as well which nails him on for the Ryanair imho

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Quite like Rossmore Nation and Timestamp in the 7:30 & 8:30 at Southwell, tiny bit short for a double though

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l like Mintana in the 7:30 and Rose Bandit in the 8:00.

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Not wanting to blow our own trumpets but that's quite a few wins and places now for us, certainly more winners than losers

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Ante post in corals and martin pipe, nrnb so think I'll have a go

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Yes you are quite right TD as when l was younger the amount of what l call mug punters who did not seem to have a lot of skill in reading the form of races were substantial and that includes some punters with plenty of money.

l suspect that sentiment still applies even though many punters bet online or on their mobiles nowadays.

Yeah NRNB is a useful tool nowadays for the punter.

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3:20 Newcastle looks like a competitive race...

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Who do you fancy there as l quite like Venturous.

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I had badri but wasn't confident, at all so much so I went ew

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l looked at him but alas choose the wrong one.

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Cheltenham less than a week away, quite like
Maries Rock in the Mares or slightly less likey in the Stayers

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l have a sense that Henderson is veering towards the Stayers TD.

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You got anything today? Really like One Night Thunder at Kempton later but it's so short, hardly worth bothering

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Given the small fields lately l am sticking to the all weather cards.

18.00 Fat Gladiator
19.00 Pappa Stour
20.30 Jumira Bridge

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Small fields is down to the prize money I'd expect

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Indeed and the lack of rain one suspects.

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Might play a part but it's deffo the prize money that's doing it

Good shout with Fat Gladiator btw

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A £1 E/W returned £6 so not too bad.

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First day of Cheltenham

Difficult to see past facile vega in the first but if his last outing was anything to go by there may be a chance I like high definition and Tahmuras each way

Jonbon is my pick of a two horse race in the second

Fast or slow and monbeg genius are my favourites in the third although I like corach rambler too

Fourth has a stand out favourite that I can't go against and may well be one of the greats

Maries Rock in the fifth

Byker in the sixth although afridi and morpheus are good each way bets imo

Galliard du Mesnil looks a safe bet in the last but tenzing and mister coffy look good each way for me

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Here are my punts for the first day TD as you have done some the same as me.:)

1.30 Facile Vega
2.10 Saint Roi E/W
2.50 Happygolucky and Fasterslow both E/W
4.10 Brandy Love to win
4.50 Sir Allen, Byker and Metamorpheus both E/W
5.30 Mahler Mission E/W

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Good start wasn't it :rolleyes:

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A poor jump at the last although even if he jumped better l don't think he would have won as the winner had more flat speed which l thought would have been blunted in the soft ground.

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Ffs, 123 and no rf :doh: oh well

What you think to Romancero le dun in the 4.50?

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l like him as l have done three in the race and he is the third.

He has to improve and why is the trainer running him at Cheltenham was one of my questions.

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Second day

1.30 Hermes Allen and Impaire et Passe the stand outs but I think Gaelic warrior has a good chance here

2.10 Two strong favourites although the Real Wacker might be worth a go e/w

2.50 very open race I like san salvador, lager dan and an epic song e/w

3.30 The two favourites should fight this one out

4.10 Delta work should prove to strong for the rest but I do like Back on the Lash as an e/w

4.50 Open race, I like Andy Dufrense, Midnight Run and Third Time Lucki e/w

5.30 It's For Me is the one for me in the last

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My picks are as follows

1.30 Impaire Et Passe e/w Ante Post and Gaelic Warrior to win

2.10 Thunder Rock e/w

2.50 Sa Fureur, Captain Conby and HMS Seahorse all e/w

3.30 Nothing there for me

4.10 Delta Work will win but he is no value so it Diesel D,Allier e/w

4.50 Third Time Lucki, Maskada and Malystic all e/w

5.30 Its for Me, A Ante Post bet, Better Days Ahead and Samui all e/w

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I like Captain Conby

Nice one two there den, I got the rf btw and had capt Kiely as a single

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You did well in the second race TD.

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Done better in the third :shocked:

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Well done as l looked at him but he has let me down a couple of times.

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Good pick with maskada, third time lucky could've made a game of it though if not hampered by the faller imo

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Yes if he was not hampered by the faller TTL would have been much closer.

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1.30 Mighty Potter & Appreciate It are the stand outs, someone like stage star or james de burials could run them close though

2.10 I like salvador ziggy and maxxum but wouldn't rule out level never ending or bear grylls from a good run

2.50 shishkin obvs but am expecting blue lord and envoi allen to produce in his wake

3.30 home by the lee paisley park and teahpou

4.10 had datsalrightgino as a 100/1 in a race he was pulled from, he's a lot shorter in this one, also like frero banbou

4.50 luccia, foxy girl

5.30 stumptown

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Sorry about the lateness as My tips are

1.30 Stage Star to win

2.10 Thanksforthehelp. Mill Green and Captain Morgs e/w

2.50 French Dynamite e/w

3.30 Flooring Porter and Gold Creek both e/w

4.10 Datsalrightgino. Fugitif and Midnight River all e/w

4.50 Ahorsewithnoname and Magical Zoe both e/w

5.30 Rapper, Angels Dawn and Fontaine Collonges all e/w

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The final day of the Chrltenham Festivel so here it goes TD

1.30 Blood Destiny to win

2.10 First Street, Pembroke and Pinkerton all e/w

2.50 Corbetts Cross to win and Rock My Way e/w

3.30 A Plus Tard to win and Hewick e/w

4.10 Vaucelet to win and Le Malin e/w

4.50 Jeremy's Flame to win and Pink Crystal e/w

5.30 Might l, Buddy One and Firm Footings all e/w

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1.30 Blood Destiny and lossiemouth are getting all the attention but I think Ascending and Zanta could have something to say about that, Gala Marceau beat Lossiemouth convincingly recently too

2.10 Pembroke, Pied Piper

2.50 Three Card Brag has the beating of the favourite here for me

3.30 A Plus for me although Minella Indo and Noble Yates are way to long odds to ignore for me Bravemansgame and ahoy senor should run the favourite close

4.10 Billway and Famous Claremont should make the favourite earn victory but The Storyteller might have a tale to tell

4.50 Impervious is the stand out

5.30 I like Imagine but MollyOlies Wishes seems a bit of a big price

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What a brutal couple of days, so many places as well and famous claremont, wtf

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Sorry to hear that TD as l was up over the 4 days but it would have been better if Buddy One did not hang across the course in the last race.

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I was £233 up Wednesday night and finished with £160 left which is probably my worst Cheltenham for quite some time

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l used quite a few of my free £5 bets l had saved for a while with several coming in at rewarding odds as well as doing my usual small stakes bets.

Definitely a couple hundred up l reckon as l will work out my full statistics in the coming days and where l went right and where l went wrong as the next big jumps festival is only weeks away.

l have already had a couple of Ante Post bets for the Grand National in Longhouse Poet and Gaillard Du Mesnil.

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Not looked at the national yet but noble yates seems like a reasonable shout based on today alone

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Given there are 40 horses in the National a little saver on him would be wise.

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Do you fancy anything tomorrow for the start of the flat season at Donny?.

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Yes, Arthur's realm and the gatekeeper in 2.25 and wanees in 3.35 couple of biggies I like too in both races, how about you?

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Here are my fancies today TD.

Doncaster 2.25 The Gatekeeper, Dirtyoldtown and Clear Angel all e/w
Doncaster 3.00 Fast Response e/w
Doncaster 3.35 Empirestateofmind, Atrium and Encourageable all e/w
Kempton 2.05 Foxes Tale to win
Kempton 2.40 Million Thanks to win and Stockpyle e/w
Kempton 5.00 Simply Sondheim e/w
Stratford 4.02 Lamanver Bel Ami to win

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Encouragable is a good pick, 33-1 when I put my bet on and has come in a fair bit

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Now 20s with most firms.

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4.05 Dorking Cock, Not that Fuisse

4.40 Third Time Lucki, Mackenberg

5.15 July Flower

Got a few others but it's a little obvs what they are

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Not the greatest punter friendly card today.

l have a few for today as well.

2.20 Sarsons Risk e/w

4.05 Latenightpass to win and Bennys King e/w

4.40 Pay The Piper and Hatcher both e/w

5.15 Jolie Coeur Allen to win and Ici La Reine e/w

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Worryingly we haven't picked the same on any today, always makes me more confident when we pick the same

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Its a tricky trappy card today in my view as l prefer tomorrow's and Saturday's card personally.

Have you done anything for the National yet as l have done three horses ante post.

Longhouse Poet 20/1 e/w

Gallard Du Mesnil 33/1 e/w

Le Milos 16/1 e/w

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No haven't looked at national yet, don't tend to till race day.

Like Fantastikas, Al Dancer and Maxamillion today though

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My horses for today are.

2.20 No Ordinary Joe and Buddy One both e/w
2.55 No Looking Back e/w
3.30 Millers Bank to win
4.05 Ashtown Lad, Numitor and Haut En Couleurs all e/w
4.40 Absolute Notions to win and Apple Away e/w
5.15 Gaoth Chuil, Go Dante and Homme Public all e/w

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I know nothing about horse racing or where to look and bet on horses, do you guys kinda give yourself £50 a month to play with and bet £5 on a horse or something? Teach me.

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My standards bets depending on the prices is a £1 e/w bet or a £1 win bet.

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Avoid paid tipsters unless you've researched their stats fully or free ones with huge numbers of followers, they're most likely on a percentage from bookies and tip accordingly, they're called affiliates

Remember 4/1 each way and under paying 5th of the odds is a cash losing bet

Never make more than one withdrawl from your betting account a month

Get a stake plan and stick to it, Den's is £1 e/w, it should really be £2 win if you copy his as a plan

Don't bet to big on single races, don't bet over £30 on a race to often or your account will be restricted, likewise never refer to trader if your betting account offers you the option

When researching look for the things that genuinely give you an advantage, like some trainers specifically get their horses ready for certain meetings, like the a guy that gets horses ready for boxing day at Wincanton, some horses like racing to the left, some excel at specific distances but not others, there's so much you can do to turn the odds in your favour a little, I've been in the 3% for years now but it's never by more than £700 and frequently far less.

I like

Galliard Du Mensil
Delta Work
Noble Yates
Capodanno
Any Second Now

So does Templegate in The Sun and the reason I like him in this race is because he's an absolute demon, like all other newspaper tipsters appalling in every other race of the year though but this race he is mustard in, you will actually find that tipsters do have months they're good in, when I started out I used a guy called Alan and he couldn't pick his nose most of the time but he is worth subscribing to in August if he's still about as he certainly used to kill it then, another was really good in November, which is a tricky month generally

I like

Corach Rambler
Noble Yates
Galvin

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l generally ignore quite a few tipsters especially the newspaper ones but the ones who seem to do far better then others are ones like Hugh Taylor, Tony Calvin, Johnny Ward and Steve Ryder, Matt Brocklebank seems to do well lately as well.


My horses for today are

2.25 Pounding Poet, Mexico and West Balboa all e/w
3.00 Irish Point to win and Springwell Bay e/w
3.35 Flooring Porter to win
4.15 Shakem Up Harry and Eldorado Allen both e/w
5.15 Longhouse Poet, Gaillard Du Mesnil, Le Milos, Vanillier and Any Second Now all e/w
6.20 Samui and Florida Dreams both e/w

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Thanks for the info guys, horse race gambling sounds far too complicated for me. Lol

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It requires a bit of skill to read the form book whether its the Racing Post or other similar horse racing form websites.

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A significant delay to the race with Animal rights protestors trying to get onto the course.

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We had the winner at 8/1 and the 4th. :):):)

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Our family has one bet on horses per year - the Grand National.

This year I got 2nd place, my wife got 4th place - the kids got nothing. :)

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I had the son's girlfriend arrested.