Cable Forum - Coronavirus

Meanwhile, the Oxford vaccine is found to be “safe and effective” in peer review.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55228422

Further tests are ongoing to increase confidence in the data that suggests a half dose followed by a full dose results in 90% efficacy. They’re concerned that the small sample of people given the half dose were all under 55 years old and might have been expected to show a stronger immune response regardless.

Nonetheless the vaccine has already been put forward for emergency approval.

Just a guess but I would imagine different population groups might get different vaccines and possibly even different dose regimens. If the 'one and a half' regimen works well for under 55s with no evidence to date to show effectiveness for over 55s, that's workable as a 'Tesco Value' vaccine for the general population for under 55s.

Chris

08-12-2020 17:05

Re: Coronavirus

Yup, it makes sense to use the cheap one on most people if it works well amongst them, especially if it also prevents transmission, because that has a knock on benefit to everyone else as well.

Plus it’s only £3 a jab. It’s an absolute gift to the large parts of the world where a high tech, £15-£25-a-go vaccine complete with massive cryogenic storage requirements simply won’t fly.

1andrew1

08-12-2020 17:19

Re: Coronavirus

Quote:

Trump to sign order aimed at prioritizing Covid-19 vaccine shipment to Americans

President Donald Trump is expected to sign an executive order on Tuesday aimed at prioritizing the shipment of the coronavirus vaccine to Americans before other nations, according to senior administration officials.

The signing is slated to take place during a vaccine summit at the White House, with the hope that the order will allay fears that there will not be enough doses of the vaccine to go around after distribution begins.

White House officials described the order as a "reaffirmation of the President's commitment to America first." But on a call with reporters Monday evening, in which administration officials asked not to be identified publicly, the White House did not provide specifics on how the order will do that.

The order comes after The New York Times reported Monday that Pfizer had offered to sell the US government additional doses in late summer, but the newspaper said the administration had turned it down. The decision to not purchase more doses mounted administration concerns that Pfizer would be unable to fulfill any additional US order until June because of the company's commitments to other countries.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/07/p...der/index.html

Damien

08-12-2020 17:36

Re: Coronavirus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36061386)

Plus it’s only £3 a jab. It’s an absolute gift to the large parts of the world where a high tech, £15-£25-a-go vaccine complete with massive cryogenic storage requirements simply won’t fly.

The Americans won't stop their push against this vaccine though. $3 vs $25 for American companies, this'll get ugly.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36061392)

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/07/p...der/index.html

Not sure what that does. Whatever orders are placed are going to those who ordered them.

Chris

08-12-2020 17:40

Re: Coronavirus

The Yanks don’t need a vaccine, they’ve got Kenneth Copeland.

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(With added Andre Antunes, obvs) :D

papa smurf

08-12-2020 17:47

Re: Coronavirus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36061398)

The Yanks don’t need a vaccine, they’ve got Kenneth Copeland.

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(With added Andre Antunes, obvs) :D

Thanks for that Chris, I think I'm cured of everything known to man and a few things that aren't ;)

Chris

08-12-2020 18:40

Re: Coronavirus

As a trainee church minister, I do *not* endorse this message. :D

mrmistoffelees

09-12-2020 10:06

Re: Coronavirus

People with severe allergic reactions warned not to have the vaccine after two reports of adverse reactions.

Source: independent ( i think, flashed up on my phone)

papa smurf

09-12-2020 10:09

Re: Coronavirus

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36061458)

People with severe allergic reactions warned not to have the vaccine after two reports of adverse reactions.

Source: independent ( i think, flashed up on my phone)

:shocked: after all that testing.

denphone

09-12-2020 10:20

Re: Coronavirus

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36061458)

People with severe allergic reactions warned not to have the vaccine after two reports of adverse reactions.

Source: independent ( i think, flashed up on my phone)

Here is another source.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/w...s-b229762.html

papa smurf

09-12-2020 10:22

Re: Coronavirus

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36061462)

Here is another source.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/w...s-b229762.html

Wonder why this wasn't picked up in the rigorous testing?

Damien

09-12-2020 10:45

Re: Coronavirus

Presumably, because people who do have a history of allergic relations to vaccines don't go to trials of a new vaccine. Apparently, the licence itself states that it should not be given to anyone who has had a previous allergy to vaccines so unless further problems crop up this won't be a big issue for the vaccine roll out.

1andrew1

09-12-2020 10:50

Re: Coronavirus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36061395)

Not sure what that does. Whatever orders are placed are going to those who ordered them.

It's going to be Biden's problem, not Trump's. I assume the US could refuse export licences.

heero_yuy

09-12-2020 11:07

Re: Coronavirus

Quote:

Quote from The Sun:

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...8&d=1562846859

People with "significant allergies" have been warned by officials not to take the Covid-19 vaccine.

Two NHS workers who received the landmark Pfizer Covid jab on V Day have suffered allergic reactions needing treatment.

The staff members both had a "significant history of allergic reactions" to the extent where they need to carry an EpiPen or similar device, the NHS confirmed.

They developed symptoms of "anaphylactoid reaction" shortly after receiving the vaccine.

NHS England confirmed both are now recovering and all trusts involved with the vaccination programme have been informed.

Regulators at the MHRA have now warned anyone else with a history of “significant” allergic reactions to medicines, food or vaccines should not receive the jab.

Yesterday they published a list of the potential constituants in the jab that could produce an allergic reaction particularly to eggs.

mrmistoffelees

09-12-2020 11:42

Re: Coronavirus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36061469)

'The UK’s drug regulator says anyone with a history of “significant” allergic reactions to food, medicine or vaccines should not currently receive the jab'

Somewhat different from the licence, no?

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