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I'm just wondering what CPU people have and if they are an Intel or AMD Fan and why.

I have an AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT 12 Core.

I am definitely an AMD Fan, the last Intel CPU i had was an Intel Pentium 133Mhz. I think AMD offers just as much if not more than Intel for a fraction of the price.

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Intel i7-9700k 8 core, 2 years old.

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Well Dad u should know our spec as u built the thing.

We have an AMD Ryzen 7 2700x 8 Core.

Again we are Amd Fans as the CPUs are cheaper and since we only use the system for Internet and Word\Publisher the CPU does all we need it to do and more.

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AMD FX-8350 8 Core

Not that it ever gets worked hard :rolleyes:

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i9 9900K not a fan of anything I buy best bang for buck at the time ( although the i9 broke my rules as I had some backpay come in )

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had one of them 2 builds ago. Solid CPU

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My rather dated XP SP3 system that runs the media server amongst other things has an Athlon 64 with a 1.6GHz FSB. At the time the equivalent Pentium Mobo only had an 800MHz FSB (Front Side Bus) so I chose AMD for the build as it was much faster.

I've maxed out the RAM and put in an SSD for the OS and apps so it's still not too slow. 2.5 TBytes of rust for HD films etc.

Laptop is an Intel core i3 (HP pro-book 450) on W7 pro with an SSD for drive C.

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I assume the SSD is optimised. I imagine XP does not know what TRIM is??

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Correct, XP doesn't know about TRIM. Just keep the fingers crossed over the amount of writes as the swap file is on that drive but with plenty of RAM swapping is not that frequent. Been 3 or 4 years so far 24/7 (Media Server) with no issues.

SSD's are getting cheaper so replacement would not be an issue.

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I hope Dude111 posts his full specs here! As that'll make my i3 look awesome.

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AMD Ryzen 3 2300X Quad-Core Processor 3.50 GHz and a year old.

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Im in the process of building a Gaming PC, but waiting for the GFX proces to drop drastically.


I'm looking a 1TB M.2 SSD
4TB SSD
to start, my nephew is doing the full spec for me, I'm paying I have a budget of up to £1,500.


This isnt including the monitor, Im looking at the 49" Samsung screen

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I hear these chips are quite nippy.

I'm thinking of one for a media centre.

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Remember the X does not have onboard GFX only the G does. I would opt for a 3100 or the 3300X if you wanted a modest cpu without graphics

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I have a 1080 here dad could have to run in the media server.

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massive over kill that :)

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AMD Ryzen 2600 here on home PC, Intel i7-10850H on work laptop. Home, I use the PC as a media server (Plex) and so do lots of video encoding on the fly. Work, I run software we sell which needs some meaty specifications (also have 64Gb RAM and a 1Tb SSD to do this)

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I just bought a Samsung 980 1TB M.2 in anticipation of DirectStorage coming to Windows 11. Never needed more than a 256 GB M.2 ( Samsung 960 Evo ) for OS and Application :) but do have nearly 20 TB mechanical drives for other stuff inc plex

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I bought a Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe PCIe M.2 to put games on - it makes a difference.

I have a 500GB SSD as the boot disk, 4TB of HD, and the 256GB SSD from my old PC in the current 2 year old box.

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sweet :) just wish higher capacity SSDs were not stupid expensive still

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My main PC has a 256GB M2 drive and a 2TB spinny one. I have 32GB of RAM too which means swap drive action is minimal so I felt more confident about using solid state drives. I do also have an 8TB NAS drive.

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My main Drive is a 1TB NVme Samsung Evo 970 Plus M.2

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Recently upgraded my system.

Running a 5950x, 32Gb 3600Mhz ram, EVGA RTX 3080Ti FTW3 Ultra and a 1Tb Samsung 980 Pro.

Still trying to decide if I am going to buy a waterblock for the GPU or get a card with a block already on it and upgrade my dad's card.

Honestly though the heat that both the CPU and GPU pump out when playing games is stupid, especially with the GPU drawing on average 400w of power plus on average 120w being drawn by the CPU.

Looking forward to building the shed I want as that will keep the temps down in the room.

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If it's the air inside the case getting a bit warm, could it be a simpler matter of adding fans, if only by adding a simple 2(240mm)or3(360mm) fan water cooler for the CPU?


I'm looking to build a new PC to replace my current 8 year old one(i7 4th Gen, GTX1080), and wouldn't like the extra complications and risk of having to build a full water cooled PC and have to strip apart the GPU to water cool it. Looking around, it does seem GPUs with waterblocks already fitted are being made, whether they're in stock is another matter. There are articles of how to put a full water-cooled system together and how to add a waterblock to an existing GPU.

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Water cooling just moves the heat from one point to another.

The only decent one I found had a radiator outside the case, with 9 fans.

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Water coolers are more efficient at removing heat from the electronics.

They use radiators and fans located at the outer parts of the case, and so the warm air isn't swirling around inside the case affecting other components.

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It's not pretty at the moment as I needed to get the pc back up and running.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1629836788

The air inside the pc is warm but it doesn't help that the room I am in hit's well over 32c when I start gaming.

Just been playing Destiny for around 2 hours and it's 36c in here now.

I have almost everything I need for a hardline tube loop and then it's a case of deciding what to do about the GPU, do I get another 3080Ti with a waterblock and give my dad this EVGA one or do I just buy the block for this and risk killing it.

[MOD EDIT - oversized picture reduced in size]

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Custom PC magazine is the place for all this sort of stuff.
The May 2021 issue dealt with a similar build to yours, even adding a waterblock to the RTX3080 GPU.
A key difference in the builds, is that theirs has the radiator fans at the top and side, with 3 fans at the front drawing air in. Is that the missing bit of your build, not enough drawing air in?

The article's instructions on installing the GPU waterblock.
Although the Apr 2021 article on dismantling the GPU is 5 pages long.

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The fans at the front are set to intake.

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Which means the air is drawn in over the front radiator, warming it before it gets into the case.
It looks like you have two sets of fans at the front? The case fans, and then the radiator fans. Are they working against each other? The case fans pulling air in and the front radiator fans trying to push air out?

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one would imagine it is pull push

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Pushing against each other with no real overall gain in movement of air, in or out. It will depend on which is the more powerful set of fans.

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All fans are Lian-Li Uni SL120 1900rpm fans except for the rear fan which is a stock Fractal case fan.

The fans are not pushing against each other, the ones at the front of the case are pulling air in through the front of the case which means pushing it through the radiator, then the ones on the back of the radiator are pulling the air through the radiator.

The air being pulled over the radiator and pushed in to the case does mean the temps are slightly around 1c or 2c higher than if the radiator was not there, since the majority of the heat is removed from the water by the top radiator.

The loop is basically:

Pump/Res to CPU

CPU to Top Rad

Top Rad to Front Rad

Front Rad to Pump/Res

Until the shed is built which will be a while, since it's going to cost between £5k and £10k for it, then I am looking at possibly changing the case or looking at a shroud under the GPU like what Major Hardware did on YouTube in his latest video, since really I don't need the sound card, which will allow me to put a fan in the shroud and then pull air directly to the GPU from the back of the case.

The thing is the 5950x and 3080Ti run hot anyway.

The CPU will overclock itself until it reaches a temp limit set in the bios which you can adjust, so I have it set to 75c but normally that would be 80c to 90c.

The GPU can pull anything up to 500w of power which produces a lot of heat, and that is dumped in to the case.

One of the problems with cases these days is that they are built for looks and not performance compared to years ago, where I could get a case with a side panel that would allow for fans to be installed on the side panel etc.

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no no no the air flow is in the the same direction. One draws air through the case and pushes through the rad the other pulls air through the rad air just going one way

Glad to help you learn something today hehehehe

Edit Got beat to it hahaha

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I hate the design of all the new cases. As you say just for looks. And what is with all the RGB. Hate clear side panels. TBH I just air cool my machine and this time of year just have the side panel off

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I don't get it either, might be okay if you're 14-16 years old and want to show off etc. You can't beat the Fractal Define R5 case.

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I don't mind RGB on Keyboard's, but inside the PC I wasn't really interested until I saw the Lian-Li fans that I am now using, because whilst they do add abit of colour, they are not overly bright etc, meaning they don't look like Rainbow Puke!

I could just set them to one colour but I honestly don't mind them at the moment the way they are.

I am still sort of tempted to learn how to make my own case, but I always go over the top with things so would probably end up building a case with 30+ fans :D

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I have to agree when it comes to RGB in cases, this is why i didn't change my case during last upgrade as i couldn't find a case that i liked.

Cases these days without RGB tend to look cheap and nasty its as if companies are encouraging RGB and pushing it.

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I just realised the case i have i still on sale 4 years after i got it....

https://www.ebuyer.com/579787-corsai...-cc-9011035-ww

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Whenever I look at PC builds finding cases with space for DVD drive and card reader is interesting. Most cases have "solid" front panels. My PC is years old and I'd love to have a new on but prices for some components aren't good at the moment and I'm spending over £6k on a GDip Theology course.

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AMD Ryzen 7 3800X just over a year old. All my previous builds (there are many because I ain't young any more) have been Intel, but until they can compete with the value for money you get with AMD, I won't consider going back.

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£19 from PC Specialist (who suplied my present PC). PCS 3312B BLACK CASE

They even have an option for you to send them your own case.

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Pretty much all of the PCS cases have a slot for a DVD/BR drive.

They are good cases as well, Ive had several PCs from them over the last 15+ years.

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it is only recently that the push towards gamers has taken precedence in the case market. You have to go hunting for a premium case that has space for more than a couple of ssds and 1 or 2 HDDs let alone an optical drive bay.

You can find them from the likes of Corsair, Fractal Design, and BeQuiet but the majority are all glass, RGB and little storage

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Is there a link u can provide so i can look to see what cases they sell please?

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https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/


They do excellent customisable laptops as well.

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I think in this day and age its pointless to be loyal to one brand, I've always gone for which ever is the best value for money at the time, based on price / performance.

Pentium 2 300mhz (First ever family computer)
Athlon XP 2200+
Core 2 Duo E4500 (Overclocked to 2.93ghz)
Core i5 2500k (Never did need to overclock that)
Ryzen 5 3600

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I cant recall doing any overclocking to any systems I've built\owned.

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My current PCs are all Intel (and a few years old now).

I've never had an AMD PC, but I have a couple of servers using Ryzen processors, and they are awesome.

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First PC was AMD, current one is Intel. No loyalty.



I'd want to work out the best bang for buck are purchase time but all components need to support Linux.

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When i upgraded from a Ryzen 7 2700x to a Ryzen 9 3900XT i was suprised by the performance increase. It was as if someone had opened a gate and let a raging bull loose.

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1st PC I owned from 1989 was a 386DX2-66. Total cost £3,000. £1,000 just for the 330Mb ESDI HDD. Programming PCs for a few years before that, and other systems around a decade before that.

The Linux community is pretty big, so should have most devices covered, and plenty of advice as to what will or won't work.

Things like DVD drives and card readers can easily be external USB devices, rather than built into the case.

My dilemma at the moment is how long should I wait for Intel or AMD to come up with new features. Intel is coming up with systems(Alder Lake) that will support PCIe 5.0 and DDR5 memory. If I wait too long my current 8-year old (Intel i7 4th Gen unlocked) might give up in the meantime.

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The first ever PC I had was an Olivelli Modulo M4-40 486SX 25Mhz, 4mb Ram.

Paid around £1200 from the old Radio Rentals for it.

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Nothing's bettered the Sinclair ZX Soectrum 48k circa 1982. Programmers needed to work for their space in those days. They're just lazy now.

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Tchhhh….

Johnny-come-lately amateurs.

IBM mainframe Assembler*, 2,4, & 6 byte Machine Language instructions, which were hand-punched onto 96 column cards.

*running on a Univac 90/30 running OS/3

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Atari 800 in 1979

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Im just glad dad taught me how to build and repair computers from a young age, its saved me a lot of money in the long run over the years.

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aaaaarrghh those loading screens . . . my eyes, my eyes :D

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I remember programming the old BBC computers they were fun.

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Running an AMD ryzen 3600X, 32gb 3200mhz ram, 4 x 1TB HD's, 3070ti and a 32" MSI optix curved 1440p 165hz monitor.