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Other countries have successfully plotted a different course and remained committed to it. They've been willing to invest in the public health infrastructure to test, trace and isolate. What is inevitable is without one we face further restrictions. I have harped on for months about these being inevitable - with many in denial - yet here we are. There is no viable alternative to lockdown that involves letting the virus go. You yourself don't want to catch the virus, but expect the rest of the population to do it for herd immunity at a cost of hundreds of thousands of deaths. The NHS will be the Coronavirus health service for this period - no cancer treatments, no screenings, nothing. For what? Half a percentage point on GDP? ---------- Post added at 15:13 ---------- Previous post was at 15:12 ---------- Quote:
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Certainly, there should be no mandatory restrictions. The public should be advised on how to behave during the pandemic and to stay away from vulnerable friends and relatives, and vulnerable people should be advised to shield. Care homes in particular should be much better protected against people potentially bringing the virus into these establishments. This strategy, as I said, will achieve herd immunity with fewer deaths because it will tend to spread through the healthy population, the vast majority of whom won’t know they’ve had it. The fact that the vulnerable are protected in this way should ensure fewer deaths, despite the lack of a mandatory lockdown. Of course we should have the Nightingales. What I am pointing out is that we may not have enough NHS staff to man them. |
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You keep incorrectly pointing out that I want to see more deaths, which shows how little of my argument you have grasped. Are you not aware of what the lockdown has done to people? It has meant that cancer monitoring has not taken place for those susceptible to it, operations have been cancelled, people have been left in agony because they couldn’t get dental treatment, it has been almost impossible to get GP appointments and mental illness has resulted from isolation and people losing their jobs and businesses. The lockdown itself has caused untold deaths and misery, which you appear to find acceptable. Your reference to the NHS is laughable. We’ve had next to no service from them for months (unless you have COVID symptoms, that is). ---------- Post added at 16:52 ---------- Previous post was at 16:48 ---------- Quote:
I suppose plunging everyone into poverty and collapsing the NHS and other services due to lack of money is a price worth paying in your book. We need to take a sensible approach, which is not something you have to offer. |
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The good news OB is I've seen nothing from Government to suggest your pipe dream fantasy of the old economy returning and sacrificing lives to expedite it is any closer to fruition. Back to the drawing board. Just a flu, go away in the summer, get out there and stop being scared. I look forward to your next piece of insight on this subject. |
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Update - he did (it must be a typo on the BBC website). https://www.masslive.com/coronavirus...oblematic.html |
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The stupidity of this approach is so obvious, it is clear you are taking the piss, so I will leave you to amuse yourself with these absurd ideas. I suppose you can always blame it on the ‘experts’ when you are eventually proved wrong, as you will be. Unless you are an expert yourself, jfman, in which case you have nowhere to run! :p: ---------- Post added at 19:14 ---------- Previous post was at 19:12 ---------- Quote:
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I doubt it. Jobs and businesses need protected - that's where borrowing and taxation come in to plug the gap and an effective test, trace, isolate system are essential. The Swedish economy is in decline, so it's absolutely false to pretend that not controlling the virus is an economic solution. Isolating the vulnerable, and those who choose to be selective, reduces demand in the economy. Businesses are going to fail either way, you either support them financially or you don't. I fail to see how I will be proven wrong not a single country of any note is taking your approach seriously. |
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