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It's a bloody nightmare trying to find one of these 'booster doses' available for the under-40s. The NHS website has said it's coming soon for a week now, a week after they said they were opening it up to more people.
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There is an implicit understanding that the public will behave responsibly and the State will not be coercive. This is a much better method than what is happening in France where the public was resistant to the vaccine until the Government forced it via a vaccine mandate. It's a much more anagtonstic relationship between the people and the state. But the idea people who are not vaccinated are only a danger to themselves is wrong. Yes, people who are vaccinated can spread COVID but they are less likely to get COVID and have shorter illnesses if they do. Both of which reduce, not eliminate, the spread of the virus. Over an entire population, this reduced transmission adds up to fewer cases and therefore fewer hospitalisations. There is a consequence to the larger public in having unvaccinated people around. Not to mention the consequences to the health service in having to deal with hospitalisations that, had the patients been vaccinated, they wouldn't have had to deal with. |
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Spock reasoning - the state can do what it likes to protect the state even to the extent of "persecuting" individuals the state doesn't like Kirk reasoning - stuff the state and anyone else, I'm the centre of the universe. I don't want to be in either situation. We value individuals and so we should so government always has the tightrope between rights of society and rights of individuals. Personally I don't think mask rules are such an infringement on the individual and society wins. |
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as for "working its way up the ladder" these things tend to start out small, then gather momentum until . . . well I'm sure you had some sort of history education at school ;) |
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These people, in a free society, are allowed to drink, smoke & eat themselves into hospital and are definitely a drain on NHS resources, but they are not forced by the state to stop their own personal health choices. |
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But we tax tobacco, alcohol and if some get their way "unhealthy food" so in a way we collect from them in advance. The problem is that do we collect enough not only to cover their costs but also the drain away from other service users. Maybe you could have discounts for people with valid "passports". Some disadvantage to those without phones but not a denial of service. And definite benefit to those both vaccinated and with said "passport". This would be a local issue so wouldn't need government action and being more carrot that stick likely less problematic to enforce. I think better than trying to bribe nationally to get the vaccine. Discounts/benefits could be small but could add up. Being small those "without" shouldn't feel so hard done by. It could be combined with "passport required" if needed. But this may need some mechanism to deal with those unable to be vaccinated. |
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But for all these points the Government does try to reduce the levels of smoking, drinking and bad diet. There are many policies designed to reduce it. I am not arguing for vaccine mandates and I am making the point none of us are the centre of the universe and our actions do have consequences to others. |
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