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jfman 28-02-2021 11:36

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My sarcasm clearly didn’t come through at 1am Old Boy.

Can only assume you were bored on a Saturday night to dig up a post weeks old. :beer:

And yes, please don’t claim you’ve not shifted goalposts I’ve better things to do with my Sunday afternoon than post clear, unequivocal evidence from your own posting history that you have.

denphone 28-02-2021 11:40

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36072331)
No, I haven't shifted goalposts.

What goalposts are they as you never had any in the first place.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36072331)
The usual suspects are simply trying to create that impression.

Is that the usual suspects that often point out the wrongs of your posts.;)

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36072331)
I'm not going over this again.

l dare say its no good you having your fingers burnt again.

Phunkenstein 02-03-2021 14:09

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As mentioned in the ‘Changes’ thread by ScottishSteve...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/20...adcast-channel

The BBC are betraying the streaming orthodoxy and bringing BBC3 back as a linear channel.

HEATHENS!

OLD BOY 02-03-2021 14:13

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Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36072651)
As mentioned in the ‘Changes’ thread by ScottishSteve...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/20...adcast-channel

The BBC are betraying the streaming orthodoxy and bringing BBC3 back as a linear channel.

HEATHENS!

It was a sensible move to bring BBC3 back to linear viewing. They acted far to quickly in transferring BBC3 online. On demand viewing is increasing in popularity, but it will be a while yet before the population as a whole shifts their viewing habits. Give it another decade or so and we should get there.

denphone 02-03-2021 14:29

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36072652)
It was a sensible move to bring BBC3 back to linear viewing. They acted far to quickly in transferring BBC3 online. On demand viewing is increasing in popularity, but it will be a while yet before the population as a whole shifts their viewing habits. Give it another decade or so and we should get there.

As ever your post is full of contradictions OB but then you do have a habit of that.

jfman 02-03-2021 14:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36072651)
As mentioned in the ‘Changes’ thread by ScottishSteve...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/20...adcast-channel

The BBC are betraying the streaming orthodoxy and bringing BBC3 back as a linear channel.

HEATHENS!

Global pandemic, linear resisting the death throes, Scotland beating England at the egg chasing.

Fourth horseman of the apocalypse due any second now...

gimpymoo 02-03-2021 15:59

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Considering BBC3 is aimed at a younger audience, younger audiences do not think "ooh, must be sat infront of the TV at 8pm"... That change has already happened. They do not even "record", they just catch it on iPlayer.

Why bring it back as a linear channel?

Some of the younger generation do not even know that TV comes through an aerial, they think it comes from wifi.

I would suggest it is more to justify the TV licence to the younger generation...

"Oh look, we bought this back... aren't we great"

OLD BOY 02-03-2021 16:08

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Originally Posted by gimpymoo (Post 36072658)
Considering BBC3 is aimed at a younger audience, younger audiences do not think "ooh, must be sat infront of the TV at 8pm"... That change has already happened. They do not even "record", they just catch it on iPlayer.

Why bring it back as a linear channel?

Some of the younger generation do not even know that TV comes through an aerial, they think it comes from wifi.

I would suggest it is more to justify the TV licence to the younger generation...

"Oh look, we bought this back... aren't we great"

A lot of people contributing to this thread just don’t get it. Most people I speak to tell me that their kids don’t watch the scheduled channels, and most friends my age watch more VOD than those channels.

We see it with our eyes, we hear it with our ears, but some still do not get it. I don’t know if they ever will until these channels close down, as inevitably they will.

The content will be there, the channel owners will be there, but all their stuff will be VOD. No-one in the future is going to want their lives dictated by scheduled television.

Chris 02-03-2021 16:28

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/20...adcast-channel

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While the BBC does well with large parts of the younger audience - on average, young adults in the UK spend more media time per week (seven and a half hours) with BBC’s services than any other brand; our research identified a significant group of younger viewers who maintain a strong linear TV habit but are currently light users of the BBC.
Oh look, actual paid research, as opposed to the wishful thinking of some bored old geezer on the internet.

Mr K 02-03-2021 16:34

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36072660)
A lot of people contributing to this thread just don’t get it. Most people I speak to tell me that their kids don’t watch the scheduled channels, and most friends my age watch more VOD than those channels.

We see it with our eyes, we hear it with our ears, but some still do not get it. I don’t know if they ever will until these channels close down, as inevitably they will.

The content will be there, the channel owners will be there, but all their stuff will be VOD. No-one in the future is going to want their lives dictated by scheduled television.

What you could do of course is record TV programmes to watch when you want. Then you aren't at risk of buffering/network issues. Better PQ too. Sneaky eh? ;)

OLD BOY 02-03-2021 16:36

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36072664)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/20...adcast-channel



Oh look, actual paid research, as opposed to the wishful thinking of some bored old geezer on the internet.

But they are ‘light users of the BBC’. It’s in that very quote.

The Culture Minister is set on converting the licence fee to a subscription model, which will confound all those who deny vehemently that VOD is the future.

https://www.tvbeurope.com/business/w...peed-broadband

Despite having previously said scrapping the BBC’s licence fee is “politically impossible”, culture minister John Whittingdale has again mooted the idea that it could be axed when the current Royal Charter ends in 2027.

Speaking in parliament, Whittingdale said the rise of the streamers and the fall in young viewers watching live BBC channels meant the licence fee was becoming harder to justify.

Whittingdale added that the licence fee could not be scrapped “whilst a significant
proportion of the population relies on Freeview” to watch the BBC.

“The technology needs to be capable of delivering video on demand to everyone,” he added. “The technology does not allow it now. We will in a few years reach universal coverage and then it will be possible to introduce subscription services as an element of the funding.”

Supporting the petition, Conservative MP Jonathan Gullis said: “I agreed the licence fee should be scrapped at the next Charter Review. The Government should also decriminalise non-payment.”

jfman 02-03-2021 16:41

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Funny how the Culture Minister is set on becomes "mooting an idea" within a mere few lines.

OLD BOY 02-03-2021 16:45

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36072665)
What you could do of course is record TV programmes to watch when you want. Then you aren't at risk of buffering/network issues. Better PQ too. Sneaky eh? ;)

As you know, I do in fact record all the programmes that are not available for long on VOD, but that’s what we have to put up with in the interim.


It simply won’t work that way in the future. The advertisers would rather you didn’t fast forward through the adverts, of course!

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36072668)
Funny how the Culture Minister is set on becomes "mooting an idea" within a mere few lines.

Argue about it until the cows come home if you like, but that’s what the government is intent on doing, if they are still in power then. I’m not sure where Labour stand on the issue, but I think they will have to wait longer than that before they get re-elected, frankly.

jfman 02-03-2021 16:49

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No it's your interpretation of what you think the Government will do in six years time. There's no manifesto commitment, no proposed legislation. Nothing but your hopes and dreams.

The 2025 broadband commitment is getting watered down so much the networks, particularly in rural areas, will not be up to it.

Then you're goosed until 2037. Better get shifting those goalposts again OB.

Hugh 02-03-2021 17:19

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"Moot"
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raise (a question or topic) for discussion; suggest (an idea or possibility).


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