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Mr K 06-03-2020 18:22

BBC3 coming back?
 
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...y_to_clipboard
Quote:

BBC Three could return to broadcast television in some form, four years after the youth-focused channel became online-only in an effort to save costs.

BBC insiders confirmed that discussions had taken place on whether the brand should once again have a presence on traditional television but said no final decision had been taken.

A spokesperson said a report in the Daily Mail that suggested a return was on the cards was “speculation”, but did not rule it out.

Mr K 20-05-2020 06:02

Re: BBC3 coming back?
 
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/m...-a9523266.html

More indications that BBC3 will be back, just hope it's not at the expense of BBC4....

denphone 20-05-2020 06:29

Re: BBC3 coming back?
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36035785)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/m...-a9523266.html

More indications that BBC3 will be back, just hope it's not at the expense of BBC4....

For once l agree entirely with your sentiments Mr K.;)

Maggy 20-05-2020 09:14

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36035785)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/m...-a9523266.html

More indications that BBC3 will be back, just hope it's not at the expense of BBC4....

:tu:

daveeb 20-05-2020 11:19

Re: BBC3 coming back?
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36035785)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/m...-a9523266.html

More indications that BBC3 will be back, just hope it's not at the expense of BBC4....


Absolutely, Beeb 4 is my favourite channel on tv.

General Maximus 21-05-2020 15:02

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If they bring it back they should rename it BBC USA and dedicate it to quality US tv shows. How about doing re-runs of Vampire Diaries and Dexter? I could make them a nice long list of quality series which ended years ago and must be cheap enough to get hold of now.

Mr K 21-05-2020 21:40

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36035939)
If they bring it back they should rename it BBC USA and dedicate it to quality US tv shows. How about doing re-runs of Vampire Diaries and Dexter? I could make them a nice long list of quality series which ended years ago and must be cheap enough to get hold of now.

Too much of that stuff on other channels surely. The licence fee is mainly for the BBC to make/commission new programmes, which they mostly do well.

cimt 21-05-2020 21:45

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I don't know which channel Dexter was on in the UK but I watched every episode and I don't think that would work on BBC. Vampire Diaries would but it is all about right issues too. It isn't just about oh lets air this show.

General Maximus 21-05-2020 22:44

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Originally Posted by cimt (Post 36036019)
it is all about right issues too.

they don't even try. They are supposed to be saving a gazillion pounds due to budget cuts yet they are trying to resurrect another channel. If you want to bring back something which has failed you need to try something different in order to make it successful, you can't just keep having multiple channels of the same drivel. If they truly want to cater for everyone, which they should be considering everyone has to pay the license fee, then they need to offer better quality tv. If Sky can bid for series on Sky One, Sky Atlantic, Sky Witness etc and Syfy can buy the rights to series, Fox/FX, CBS and all those other channels then the BBC can too. They managed with the X-Files, Buffy and Star Trek back in the 90s, they just need to think bigger.

Mr K 22-05-2020 09:26

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36036026)
they don't even try. They are supposed to be saving a gazillion pounds due to budget cuts yet they are trying to resurrect another channel. If you want to bring back something which has failed you need to try something different in order to make it successful, you can't just keep having multiple channels of the same drivel. If they truly want to cater for everyone, which they should be considering everyone has to pay the license fee, then they need to offer better quality tv. If Sky can bid for series on Sky One, Sky Atlantic, Sky Witness etc and Syfy can buy the rights to series, Fox/FX, CBS and all those other channels then the BBC can too. They managed with the X-Files, Buffy and Star Trek back in the 90s, they just need to think bigger.

Are you prepared to pay bigger? Let the BBC be about new distinctive programmes, not repeating others output.

General Maximus 22-05-2020 09:39

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36036045)
Are you prepared to pay bigger?

I pay more than enough as it is considering I literally don't watch it at all. Just as Sky has different bundles for movies, sports, documentaries etc, if you are going to be forced to pay what essentially is a monthly subscription for a tv service I should be able to say whether I want BBC, Netflix, Amazon etc. It is pathetic. When you put the two side by side the BBC are like a 3 year old child playing make belief and pretending to do what the gown ups are doing (Netflix and Amazon) if you want to assert they are trying to produce quality programming.
You are not forced to give money to McDonalds if you don't like it and choose to eat at Subway instead so it baffles me how everyone can be forced to prop up a cack tv provider.

Mr K 22-05-2020 09:58

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36036050)
I pay more than enough as it is considering I literally don't watch it at all. Just as Sky has different bundles for movies, sports, documentaries etc, if you are going to be forced to pay what essentially is a monthly subscription for a tv service I should be able to say whether I want BBC, Netflix, Amazon etc. It is pathetic. When you put the two side by side the BBC are like a 3 year old child playing make belief and pretending to do what the gown ups are doing (Netflix and Amazon) if you want to assert they are trying to produce quality programming.
You are not forced to give money to McDonalds if you don't like it and choose to eat at Subway instead so it baffles me how everyone can be forced to prop up a cack tv provider.

I think you are proposing the BBC be like any other channel. But it's a public sector broadcaster. Providing programmes and services others don't do, as they aren't profitable. Choice is good, but we need to cater for everybody, even those that love Antiques Roadshow (which I don't), or Gardeners World (which I do). Drama wise it creates/commissions some of the best UK output. Programmes others daren't make/take a commercial risk with.

I can see this degenerating into yet another licence fee thread ! ;)

General Maximus 22-05-2020 10:03

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36036053)
I can see this degenerating into yet another licence fee thread ! ;)

Na, i'll stop now. I just wanted to point out the contradiction of cost savings and reopening a channel. A few months when there was all the stink about budgets and funding the tv license for OAPs they said services would have to reduce, not increase.

Chris 22-05-2020 10:07

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36036054)
Na, i'll stop now. I just wanted to point out the contradiction of cost savings and reopening a channel. A few months when there was all the stink about budgets and funding the tv license for OAPs they said services would have to reduce, not increase.

It's not necessarily the contradiction it first appears. The BBC still has to make BBC3 programming because it is charter-bound to cater for that target audience. However if it has evidence that delivering it online reaches substantially fewer of the people it's made for, then they have a cost effectiveness problem. The BBC also already owns a shedload of broadcast technology and infrastructure and has the expertise in house; it's not even clear that they would have to rent transmitter or transponder space in order to bring BBC3 back because they always have some in reserve. The additional cost in absolute terms is minimal, and the cost per viewer is possibly actually lower.

denphone 22-05-2020 10:09

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36036053)
I think you are proposing the BBC be like any other channel. But it's a public sector broadcaster. Providing programmes and services others don't do, as they aren't profitable. Choice is good, but we need to cater for everybody, even those that love Antiques Roadshow (which I don't), or Gardeners World (which I do). Drama wise it creates/commissions some of the best UK output. Programmes others daren't make/take a commercial risk with.

I can see this degenerating into yet another licence fee thread ! ;)

The BBC might not be everybody's cup of tea as people are entitled to their opinion but the BBC is the glue of the nation bringing people together with its sports coverage and landmark dramas and documentaries.

It also reflects the UK’s identity and is a important cog in the economy.

General Maximus 22-05-2020 18:36

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36036056)
It's not necessarily the contradiction it first appears. The BBC still has to make BBC3 programming because it is charter-bound to cater for that target audience. However if it has evidence that delivering it online reaches substantially fewer of the people it's made for, then they have a cost effectiveness problem. The BBC also already owns a shedload of broadcast technology and infrastructure and has the expertise in house; it's not even clear that they would have to rent transmitter or transponder space in order to bring BBC3 back because they always have some in reserve. The additional cost in absolute terms is minimal, and the cost per viewer is possibly actually lower.

all valid points but if that is the case then they never should have shutdown BBC 3 in the first place.

Mr K 22-05-2020 18:46

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36036109)
all valid points but if that is the case then they never should have shutdown BBC 3 in the first place.

Well yes, agree with you on that. It seemed to be a trendy 'young people just watch streaming TV' decision. They have been producing some good output under the BBC3 brand, but very few have seen it. Some of it has gone on BBC1, but at idiotic times of night. Even young people watch linear TV; some of them even pay their TV licence ...:shocked:

Chris 22-05-2020 22:56

Re: BBC3 coming back?
 
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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36036109)
all valid points but if that is the case then they never should have shutdown BBC 3 in the first place.

They said at the time they thought it was too soon to experiment with a streaming-only BBC channel but the need to save money was the driver. I think the key justification for bringing it back is the ‘cost per viewer’ and the research evidence that the channel’s reduced reach is reversible if they put it back on broadcast platforms.

Mr K 02-03-2021 16:24

Re: BBC3 coming back?
 
Confirmed. BBC3 is coming back as a TV channel
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-56251020

Linear tv is the future ;)

OLD BOY 02-03-2021 17:42

Re: BBC3 coming back?
 
No, it’s not. They simply acted too quickly and they only moved the one channel.

daveeb 02-03-2021 18:27

Re: BBC3 coming back?
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36072662)
Confirmed. BBC3 is coming back as a TV channel
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-56251020

Linear tv is the future ;)

Nice to get some positive news for a change :woot:

TheDaddy 03-03-2021 06:51

Re: BBC3 coming back?
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36036057)
The BBC might not be everybody's cup of tea as people are entitled to their opinion but the BBC is the glue of the nation bringing people together with its sports coverage and landmark dramas and documentaries.

It also reflects the UK’s identity and is a important cog in the economy.

Have I stept back into 1950, what sports coverage, match of the day although I suspect it might be you that's gone back in time actually those dramas and documentaries are repeats, like most of their output

Mr K 03-03-2021 07:31

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36072787)
Have I stept back into 1950, what sports coverage, match of the day although I suspect it might be you that's gone back in time actually those dramas and documentaries are repeats, like most of their output

Think you'll find 99% of cable tv is repeats, a lot of it originating from the BBC. They are one of the few making new programmes. Some of their award winning BBC3 output has been missed as its been confined to streaming or tucked away late night on BBC1. Taking it off air was a mistake which they now admit.

oliver1948uk 03-03-2021 09:30

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Bloodlands is not a repeat.
A new series of Line of Duty is coming in March, surely one of the most gripping programmes of all.
I don't follow sport, but there was rugby over the weekend (and last week) and twice recently my BBC viewing has been messed up with important football matches.

Chris 03-03-2021 10:01

Re: BBC3 coming back?
 
Right, enough. Thanks to the BBC3 announcement we now have 3 different threads all discussing the same issue. I have closed all of them.

*All* pointless arguments about whether the future of TV is in linear broadcasting, video on-demand, a mixture of both, or something as-yet uninvented, should now take place here.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...php?t=33709854


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