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papa smurf 25-10-2022 08:32
Re: Rishi Sunak to become PM
 
I'm looking forward to Novembers race for PM ,wonder if Hancock will have a go

1andrew1 25-10-2022 09:43
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36138384)
I'm looking forward to Novembers race for PM ,wonder if Hancock will have a go
Sunak will appoint him to a Cabinet post so he won't. Yesterday's snub was just an in-joke between them! :D

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I appreciate this news demolishes your own pet theory, however Guido has put a named MP member on the record who in turn has named the 1922’s joint secretary. There’s more than enough explicit finger-pointing there for, at the very least, an indignant tweet from those concerned, if it’s untrue or inaccurate.

Don’t take it personally. In the end all any of us is doing is speculation and educated guesswork, your personal prestige isn’t on the line for guessing wrong.
What we can see here is how political campaigns and Partygate denials over the last five years have reduced our trust in politicians. A few years ago I would have believed Johnson's claim straight away but now I'm far more sceptical and would be checking the reliability of all concerned here.

Pierre 25-10-2022 10:05
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36138377)
Amidst today’s excitement, it seems to have passed largely unnoticed that the 1922 Committee confirmed Boris actually did have 100 nominations and could have forced a contest had he chosen to.

https://order-order.com/2022/10/24/1...d-the-numbers/

He chose not to, after flying home. Why, is a matter of speculation.
He'll be back.

jfman 25-10-2022 10:17
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36138383)
I appreciate this news demolishes your own pet theory, however Guido has put a named MP member on the record who in turn has named the 1922’s joint secretary. There’s more than enough explicit finger-pointing there for, at the very least, an indignant tweet from those concerned, if it’s untrue or inaccurate.

Don’t take it personally. In the end all any of us is doing is speculation and educated guesswork, your personal prestige isn’t on the line for guessing wrong.
As I say, it’s got extremely limited credibility from a website that clearly had a vested interest from the start. There’s no way to independently verify the claim, and you are relying on someone to feel so strongly against it to speak out discrediting Boris in the process. An act of self harm for a political party on life support.

We are indeed engaging in guesswork and nothing from Guido has changed my view. If Boris had the numbers he’d have been PM by Friday.

Iain Duncan Smith on LBC summed it up perfectly. No team. No plan. The indignity of having to phone round and drum up interest.

denphone 25-10-2022 10:23
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He'll be back.
Perhaps in 2025?.

Damien 25-10-2022 11:46
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I don't think Johnson will come back as PM. If I had to bet with that prospect not there in the immediate future he'll step down as an MP at the next election and become a personality instead.

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I am surprised no one on here has talked about Sunak's background?

He is apparently the first PM to represent a Yorkshire constituency. It just to goes to show what obstacles you can overcome in this country.

jfman 25-10-2022 11:52
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Rishi sticking the boot in. Mistakes were made.

Chris 25-10-2022 11:58
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Rishi sticking the boot in. Mistakes were made.
Incidentally, your prediction that someone would accuse Rishi of being insufficiently brown came true last night courtesy of the BBC. They managed to find some Asian students in Leicester and one of them suggested his 'socio-economic background' made him less able to be seen as a representative of British Asians. He's not one of the hard-left usual suspects but I'm sure it's only a matter of time.

I've recently moved onto a new-build estate where there are a number of south asian households (Diwali was a bit noisy last night). All I can say is around here, they all have bigger houses than me.

jfman 25-10-2022 12:02
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36138414)
Incidentally, your prediction that someone would accuse Rishi of being insufficiently brown came true last night courtesy of the BBC. They managed to find some Asian students in Leicester and one of them suggested his 'socio-economic background' made him less able to be seen as a representative of British Asians. He's not one of the hard-left usual suspects but I'm sure it's only a matter of time.

I've recently moved onto a new-build estate where there are a number of south asian households (Diwali was a bit noisy last night). All I can say is around here, they all have bigger houses than me.
As I pointed out the last time I don’t consider the problems in the Labour Party exclusively those of the “hard-left” but as you say almost inevitable that someone would do it.

He doesn’t have the lived experience of most British people, whatever that looks like, regardless of skin colour. I don’t know why they don’t just keep it simple.

Damien 25-10-2022 12:23
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36138414)
Incidentally, your prediction that someone would accuse Rishi of being insufficiently brown came true last night courtesy of the BBC. They managed to find some Asian students in Leicester and one of them suggested his 'socio-economic background' made him less able to be seen as a representative of British Asians. He's not one of the hard-left usual suspects but I'm sure it's only a matter of time..
A Labour MP tweeted it wasn't a win for Asian representation because of the class thing but seems to have been made to delete it. It's not that uncommon a view amongst some on the left who've dipped too much into viewing everything as a class issue and see issues of identity as a side-effect of that rather a separate but occasionally interlocking issue. There is a term 'Brocialist' to describe men on the left who downplay issues around women's rights as their analysis of all problems is reduced to class alone.

Pierre 25-10-2022 12:32
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36138415)
As I pointed out the last time I don’t consider the problems in the Labour Party exclusively those of the “hard-left” but as you say almost inevitable that someone would do it.

He doesn’t have the lived experience of most British people, whatever that looks like, regardless of skin colour. I don’t know why they don’t just keep it simple.
He is not from a privileged background. He is the son of two very hard working immigrants, that I'm sure installed a good work ethic into him.

Also marrying a billionaires daughter, helps!

He did vote for Brexit though !

jfman 25-10-2022 12:49
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36138417)
He is not from a privileged background. He is the son of two very hard working immigrants, that I'm sure installed a good work ethic into him.

Also marrying a billionaires daughter, helps!

He did vote for Brexit though !
In his own words he has no working class friends. That’s either he’s privileged or a knob. Or both.

mrmistoffelees 25-10-2022 12:50
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Reese-Mogg resigns......

Chris 25-10-2022 12:52
Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Lived experience is useful but it isn’t the trump card it is presently fashionable to claim it is. Nobody can live every experience. Much more useful are an awareness of what one has and what one does not have, and the ability to command a team that collectively has the necessary breadth of skills and experience.

Whether he’s that man, we shall soon find out.

1andrew1 25-10-2022 13:05
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Reese-Mogg resigns......
Very happy to read that. :)


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