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RichardCoulter 28-07-2021 16:52

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
I suspect that Showcase will show the first one or two episodes of Sky Atlantic series and then tell viewers to tune to SA to continue watching them.

1andrew1 28-07-2021 16:54

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Interesting to see there's still life left in linear.
Quote:

Launching the newly branded Sky Showcase channel, a linear only main event channel..
https://www.skygroup.sky/en-gb/artic...se-and-sky-max

OLD BOY 28-07-2021 17:19

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36087751)
Interesting to see there's still life left in linear.

https://www.skygroup.sky/en-gb/artic...se-and-sky-max

Well of course there is. It was only 2021 when I last looked.

We’ll try our best to ignore the channels that are closing down to join the streamers for now, shall we?

Gavin-D 28-07-2021 21:14

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Will be interesting to see if Sky Max becomes a Sky exclusive, like Sky Atlantic

BenMcr 28-07-2021 21:28

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 36087768)
Will be interesting to see if Sky Max becomes a Sky exclusive, like Sky Atlantic

Already said earlier it won't be

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...&postcount=977

vincerooney 28-07-2021 23:17

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
it still makes me laugh that sky are withholding sky atlantic. i can picture who makes the decision rocking back and forth in their chair

"people...people will choose sky ....for sky atlantic...yes....yes...game of thrones will get them..."
"that show is over sir"
"not listening....not listening!!!!!.....NOT LISTENING!!!! PEOPLE WILL COME TO SKY FOR SKY ATLANTIC!!*puts fingers in ears*

Legendkiller2k 29-07-2021 00:02

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36087772)
it still makes me laugh that sky are withholding sky atlantic. i can picture who makes the decision rocking back and forth in their chair

"people...people will choose sky ....for sky atlantic...yes....yes...game of thrones will get them..."
"that show is over sir"
"not listening....not listening!!!!!.....NOT LISTENING!!!! PEOPLE WILL COME TO SKY FOR SKY ATLANTIC!!*puts fingers in ears*

Why? It's Skys channel.
There's a lot more on it than Game of Thrones Gangs of London, Westworld, Blue bloods to name 3 shows.
What makes me laugh is when people think Virgin media are entitled to everything, they was offered Atlantic they wouldn't pay case closed.

vincerooney 29-07-2021 00:54

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36087774)
Why? It's Skys channel.
There's a lot more on it than Game of Thrones Gangs of London, Westworld, Blue bloods to name 3 shows.
What makes me laugh is when people think Virgin media are entitled to everything, they was offered Atlantic they wouldn't pay case closed.

no one's had it thats the problem mate. BT either. So basically everyone for the past 6 or 7 years has not met skys value for the channel. That would suggest something.

Also since game of thrones ended sky atlantic now tv subscriptions have gone down so it was a pull for people in terms of the reasoning behind subscribing to the entertainment package. Now game of thrones has ended and yet sky seem to still be so resistant because they seem reluctant to to finally give up the channel after all this time

Just my thoughts anyway so less angry responses mate :) if it wasnt angry then fair enough it just comes across like that and you were one of the better posters on here in my eyes ;)

Media Boy UK 29-07-2021 01:33

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
TV Channel list.com is reporting that Virgin Media UK will get THREE new channels on September 1st:

-Sky Max HD
-Sky Max
-Sky Showcase +1

As far as I know only Sky Max (One Channel) has been confirmed.

https://www.tvchannellists.com/List_...re_EPG_changes

Legendkiller2k 29-07-2021 02:34

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36087777)
no one's had it thats the problem mate. BT either. So basically everyone for the past 6 or 7 years has not met skys value for the channel. That would suggest something.

Also since game of thrones ended sky atlantic now tv subscriptions have gone down so it was a pull for people in terms of the reasoning behind subscribing to the entertainment package. Now game of thrones has ended and yet sky seem to still be so resistant because they seem reluctant to to finally give up the channel after all this time

Just my thoughts anyway so less angry responses mate :) if it wasnt angry then fair enough it just comes across like that and you were one of the better posters on here in my eyes ;)

More irritation than angry mate but not at you as you made very good points, you was just in firing line so to say lol, sorry about that.
Bt do have SKY Atlantic now all be it via NOWTV but it is there, plusnet have thrown the towell in tvwise and no longer provide tv, i think Talktalk only do freeview tv now plus ppv movies etc.
The same could be said for BT regarding AMC which personally i'm surprised it's still going only BT have it, not even Plusnet a sub branch of BT had it when they had their tv service.

ScottishSteve 29-07-2021 04:53

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087778)
TV Channel list.com is reporting that Virgin Media UK will get THREE new channels on September 1st:
https://www.tvchannellists.com/List_...re_EPG_changes

As you know full well MB that site can be edited by anyone therefore any ‘reporting’ can be taken with a pinch of salt.

epsilon 29-07-2021 10:55

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36087774)
Why? It's Skys channel.
There's a lot more on it than Game of Thrones Gangs of London, Westworld, Blue bloods to name 3 shows.
What makes me laugh is when people think Virgin media are entitled to everything, they was offered Atlantic they wouldn't pay case closed.

Blue Bloods is on Sky Witness. ;)

Legendkiller2k 29-07-2021 11:22

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36087808)
Blue Bloods is on Sky Witness. ;)

Shows how long it has been since i watched anything on SKY lol.

---------- Post added at 11:22 ---------- Previous post was at 11:20 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36087781)
As you know full well MB that site can be edited by anyone therefore any ‘reporting’ can be taken with a pinch of salt.

Technically they are, SKYshowcase and SKYMAX one of them has a plus1 too.
But as reported earlier in the thread by other posters SKYshowcase is replacing SKYone.

ScottishSteve 29-07-2021 11:46

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36087810)

Technically they are, SKYshowcase and SKYMAX one of them has a plus1 too.
But as reported earlier in the thread by other posters SKYshowcase is replacing SKYone.

Indeed but MB listed as the plus1 as coming to Virgin Media using that site as a credible source.
There are quite a few Sky +1s not available on Virgin.

Media Boy UK 29-07-2021 11:51

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36087813)
Indeed but MB listed as the plus1 as coming to Virgin Media using that site as a credible source.
There are quite a few Sky +1s not available on Virgin.

Here is an list of channel that Virgin Media UK may get when they old deal runs out with that broadcaster (Sky UK Ltd).

=== TV and Radio Channels: ===
=== Own by Sky UK Ltd (Comcast) ===
Pick +1
Sky Atlantic
Sky Atlantic HD
Sky Atlantic +1
Sky One +1

https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/p/...adcasters.html

ScottishSteve 29-07-2021 11:56

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087814)
Sky One +1, Pick +1 and two SD plus one HD Channel of an well known Sky branded channel are not on Virgin.

Absolutely which would tell me it is unlikely that any more +1 services from Sky will arrive.

Media Boy UK 29-07-2021 12:01

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36087816)
Absolutely which would tell me it is unlikely that any more +1 services from Sky will arrive.

It hit and miss with Virgin when it comes to Sky,

Virgin got an HD Channel with Sky Crime but Sky One +1 and Pick +1 was drop by Virgin Media UK when Virgin took over Smallworld Cable in 2014.

https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/p/...asting-on.html

More info on Smallworld Cable - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallworld_Cable

ScottishSteve 29-07-2021 15:16

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087820)
It hit and miss with Virgin when it comes to Sky,

Virgin got an HD Channel with Sky Crime but Sky One +1 and Pick +1 was drop by Virgin Media UK when Virgin took over Smallworld Cable in 2014.

https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/p/...asting-on.html

More info on Smallworld Cable - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallworld_Cable

I was a Smallworld customer right from the start when they launched as Omne Communications, we were one of their first customers.

It was well run in the end.

RichardCoulter 29-07-2021 15:28

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36087842)
I was a Smallworld customer right from the start when they launched as Omne Communications, we were one of their first customers.

It was well run in the end.

How was it after Virgin bought it?

Media Boy UK 29-07-2021 16:25

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Base on information given to us today by Media Boy Sources the following will happen on September 1st with the Sky Basic channels on Sky AND Virgin Media UK:

Closes
Sky One,
Sky One HD and
Sky One +1 (Only on Sky)

Launches:
Sky Showcase
Sky Showcase HD
Sky Showcase +1
Sky Max
Sky Max HD
Peacock to launch in UK and will be free to Sky customers. (Launch date TBC)

Stay as now:
Challenge
E! HD
E!
Movies 24
Movies 24 +
Pick
Pick +1 (Only on Sky)
SYFY HD
SYFY
SYFY +1
Sky Arts HD
Sky Arts
Sky Atlantic (Only on Sky)
Sky Atlantic HD (Only on Sky)
Sky Atlantic +1 (Only on Sky)
Sky Comedy HD
Sky Comedy
Sky Crime HD
Sky Crime
Sky Crime +1
Sky Replay
Sky Witness
Sky Witness HD
Sky Witness +1

Source: Media Boy Sources Given to Media Boy HQ today at 15.40 (3.40pm BST).

©copyright 2021 Media Boy 2006 - 2021. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

ScottishSteve 29-07-2021 16:34

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36087844)
How was it after Virgin bought it?

In the main it has been fine, for me they are the best of a bad bunch.

BT's network can't even offer me any more than 16mb where I am, although only over a mile from the exchange and there are hundreds more houses further down the line than mine, having cable is a no brainer in this area of town.

The transition from Smallworld to Virgin was seamless, though if there was ever any issues their head office was in the next town along so if they had no engineers available you could pop over and get a replacement box or modem no hassle.

I knew the staff on first name terms as well.

---------- Post added at 16:34 ---------- Previous post was at 16:31 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087852)
Sky Replay
[/COLOR][/B]

I have seen numerous sources state that Sky Replay is being dropped.

Media Boy UK 29-07-2021 16:36

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36087853)
I have seen numerous sources state that Sky Replay is being dropped.

My Sources say Sky Replay is staying.

Sky may ask Virgin Media to move some channels about on the EPG so base on Sky EPG the following may happen on Virgin from September 1st:

109. Sky Showcase HD
110. Sky Showcase
111. Sky Witness HD
112. Sky Witness
121. Sky Max HD
122. Sky Max
123. Sky Arts
135. Sky Comedy HD
136. Sky Comedy
137. Sky Crime HD
138. Sky Crime
139. SYFY HD
140. SYFY
156. Sky Arts HD
157. E! HD (?)
158. E! (?)
160. Sky Replay
164. Challenge
165. Pick
180. Sky Showcase +1 (?)
206. Sky Witness +1
207. Sky Crime +1
229. SYFY +1


270. Sky History HD
271. Sky History +1
272. Sky History 2 HD
277. Sky Documentaries HD
278. Sky Documentaries
279. Sky Nature HD
280. Sky Nature

419. Movies 24
420. Movies 24 +

All channels in red may change - still no been confirmed by Virgin Media or Sky.

BenMcr 29-07-2021 16:37

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087857)
My Sources say Sky Replay is staying.

It's not listed in the press release

https://www.skygroup.sky/article/sky...se-and-sky-max

ozsat 29-07-2021 17:05

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Neither is Sky History 2.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36087858)
It's not listed in the press release

https://www.skygroup.sky/article/sky...se-and-sky-max



---------- Post added at 17:05 ---------- Previous post was at 16:54 ----------

I wondered if they just listed EPG numbers which were changing - but Sky Atlantic is not moving.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087862)
Neither is Challenge or Pick.


Media Boy UK 29-07-2021 17:06

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36087858)
It's not listed in the press release

https://www.skygroup.sky/article/sky...se-and-sky-max

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36087860)
Neither is Sky History 2.

My Sources say "apart from Sky One no other channels are closing".

epsilon 29-07-2021 20:26

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087865)
My Sources say "apart from Sky One no other channels are closing".

Just out of interest, is this the same source that, last week, was claiming "Sky are going to stop providing their channels to other providers in the future", or is it a different source?

OLD BOY 29-07-2021 20:47

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
What concerns me is whether Peacock will be coming to VM. If it does, it seems that it will be at a cost.

epsilon 29-07-2021 20:57

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36087887)
What concerns me is whether Peacock will be coming to VM. If it does, it seems that it will be at a cost.

I guess it would similar to adding the NOW app to Virgin. If Peacock carries Sky Atlantic content, there could be a conflict of interests.

Media Boy UK 29-07-2021 23:24

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36087884)
Just out of interest, is this the same source that, last week, was claiming "Sky are going to stop providing their channels to other providers in the future", or is it a different source?

Other sources.

epsilon 29-07-2021 23:29

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087902)
Other sources.

Ok, thanks.

Media Boy UK 29-07-2021 23:32

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36087903)
Ok, thanks.

Do you have an source for that BT Sport axe as broadcast channels story?

https://www.forumbox.co.uk/forum/thr...treaming-only/

epsilon 29-07-2021 23:57

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087904)
Do you have an source for that BT Sport axe as broadcast channels story?

https://www.forumbox.co.uk/forum/thr...treaming-only/

It was more of a request for comments than a story. See the original post on DS Forums for more info.

Media Boy UK 30-07-2021 00:16

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36087905)
It was more of a request for comments than a story. See the original post on DS Forums for more info.

I know that BT Sport deal with Virgin Media are always up before the Football Season starts - around this time of year.

2013 - launch deal: https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...ke-virgin.html

2015 - BT Sport 3/Red Button deal: https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...l-package.html

2018 - BT Sport UHD deal: https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...nel-to-be.html

2021?

epsilon 30-07-2021 00:20

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087907)
I know that BT Sport deal with Virgin Media are always up before the Football Season starts - around this time of year.

2013 - launch deal: https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...ke-virgin.html

2015 - BT Sport 3/Red Button deal: https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...l-package.html

2018 - BT Sport UHD deal: https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...nel-to-be.html

2021?

Hmmm! Interesting.

Media Boy UK 30-07-2021 00:26

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36087908)
Hmmm! Interesting.

But BT Sport SD Channels was axe on Virgin Media in December 2018: https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...t-sd.html#more

epsilon 30-07-2021 00:55

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087909)
But BT Sport SD Channels was axe on Virgin Media in December 2018: https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...t-sd.html#more

Not a good time for digitalbitrate's Virgin Media monitor to be offline.

ozsat 30-07-2021 06:11

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Peacock is a free ad-funded service - like Pluto TV. You pay to reduce the amount of ads on Peacock.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36087887)
What concerns me is whether Peacock will be coming to VM. If it does, it seems that it will be at a cost.



---------- Post added at 06:11 ---------- Previous post was at 06:08 ----------

BTtv's own EPG had a new sport addition in the past couple of months - the full HDR version of BT Sport Ultimate.
They don't use HLG and so a different stream has to be used and viewers select the regular version or the HDR version.
Maybe a slate will be carried when there is no HDR programming - which is 99% of the time. There has only been one HDR programme since it launched but the football is back soon.
Here's hoping.

Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36087908)
Hmmm! Interesting.


RobboEdin 30-07-2021 12:02

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
All4 app and YouTube Kids app coming soon to TV 360:
https://community.virginmedia.com/t5...4784526#M17216

Media Boy UK 30-07-2021 15:46

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087852)
Base on information given to us today by Media Boy Sources the following will happen on September 1st with the Sky Basic channels on Sky AND Virgin Media UK:

Closes
Sky One,
Sky One HD and
Sky One +1 (Only on Sky)

Launches:
Sky Showcase
Sky Showcase HD
Sky Showcase +1
Sky Max
Sky Max HD
Peacock to launch in UK and will be free to Sky customers. (Launch date TBC)

Stay as now:
Challenge
E! HD
E!
Movies 24
Movies 24 +
Pick
Pick +1 (Only on Sky)
SYFY HD
SYFY
SYFY +1
Sky Arts HD
Sky Arts
Sky Atlantic (Only on Sky)
Sky Atlantic HD (Only on Sky)
Sky Atlantic +1 (Only on Sky)
Sky Comedy HD
Sky Comedy
Sky Crime HD
Sky Crime
Sky Crime +1
Sky Replay
Sky Witness
Sky Witness HD
Sky Witness +1

Source: Media Boy Sources Given to Media Boy HQ today at 15.40 (3.40pm BST).

©copyright 2021 Media Boy 2006 - 2021. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087857)
My Sources say Sky Replay is staying.

Sky may ask Virgin Media to move some channels about on the EPG so base on Sky EPG the following may happen on Virgin from September 1st:

109. Sky Showcase HD
110. Sky Showcase
111. Sky Witness HD
112. Sky Witness
121. Sky Max HD
122. Sky Max
123. Sky Arts
135. Sky Comedy HD
136. Sky Comedy
137. Sky Crime HD
138. Sky Crime
139. SYFY HD
140. SYFY
156. Sky Arts HD
157. E! HD (?)
158. E! (?)
160. Sky Replay
164. Challenge
165. Pick
180. Sky Showcase +1 (?)
206. Sky Witness +1
207. Sky Crime +1
229. SYFY +1


270. Sky History HD
271. Sky History +1
272. Sky History 2 HD
277. Sky Documentaries HD
278. Sky Documentaries
279. Sky Nature HD
280. Sky Nature

419. Movies 24
420. Movies 24 +

All channels in red may change - still no been confirmed by Virgin Media or Sky.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36087858)
It's not listed in the press release

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36087853)
I have seen numerous sources state that Sky Replay is being dropped

July 30th update: Media Boy Sources have just confirmed that Sky will close Sky Replay but no closing date has been given so my sources are thinking it'll be September 1st.

1andrew1 30-07-2021 15:56

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36087908)
Hmmm! Interesting.

The Premier League rights sold to Sky, BT and Amazon just rolled over for three years so maybe the VM-BT deal did as well, if they agreed to pay the same for the same amount of content.

Mythica 30-07-2021 18:36

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087997)
July 30th update: Media Boy Sources have just confirmed that Sky will close Sky Replay but no closing date has been given so my sources are thinking it'll be September 1st.

I think you need new sources, yesterday it was staying open.

Media Boy UK 30-07-2021 18:42

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 36088017)
I think you need new sources, yesterday it was staying open.

My Sources just seen paperwork on Sky Replay closing today.

As of January 2021 I have ban sources from using any Do Not post orders on me. So I am just passing on any info I get from my Sources.

Mythica 30-07-2021 18:51

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36088018)
My Sources just seen paperwork on Sky Replay closing today.

As of January 2021 I have ban sources from using any Do Not post orders on me. So I am just passing on any info I get from my Sources.

Seems a pretty pointless exercise when the info changes in 24 hours.

epsilon 30-07-2021 19:04

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36088001)
The Premier League rights sold to Sky, BT and Amazon just rolled over for three years so maybe the VM-BT deal did as well, if they agreed to pay the same for the same amount of content.

Possibly but that doesn't explain the slate. I guess it will stay a mystery until the slate is visible.

Media Boy UK 30-07-2021 20:07

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36088024)
Possibly but that doesn't explain the slate. I guess it will stay a mystery until the slate is visible.

At time of posting all I am getting from my Sources is "BT and Virgin Media haven't got long to agreed an new deal."

We got no info on when BT Sport may close on Virgin Media UK as of July 30th at 8pm.

vincerooney 30-07-2021 22:44

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
So here are the headlines i can gather...

1) Sky has counteracted losing warner content in the future by bringing peacock over.
Questions:
A lot of the main things on peacock are on netflix etc. How is this going to work exactly?
I assume virgin media won't be able to offer it and Sky will do a sort of Sky Atlantic thing and make it inclusive?

BT Sport is potentially leaving Virgin Media before the start of the season.
I assume BT Sport will ask for more money since they've been losing money on it and are looking to sell anyway? Getting more money from virgin media will make them more attractive?

OLD BOY 31-07-2021 11:28

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36088054)
So here are the headlines i can gather...

1) Sky has counteracted losing warner content in the future by bringing peacock over.
Questions:
A lot of the main things on peacock are on netflix etc. How is this going to work exactly?
I assume virgin media won't be able to offer it and Sky will do a sort of Sky Atlantic thing and make it inclusive?

BT Sport is potentially leaving Virgin Media before the start of the season.
I assume BT Sport will ask for more money since they've been losing money on it and are looking to sell anyway? Getting more money from virgin media will make them more attractive?

If they cut off VM, they will lose even more money, won't they? As I understand it, most VM viewers would not pay extra for this service if the current deal expired. As things stand, the VM money is guaranteed income, whether customers want it or not.

As far as Peacock is concerned, any contracts they have with Netflix and others will come to an end at some point, and then they just won't renew them.

---------- Post added at 11:26 ---------- Previous post was at 11:23 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36087916)
Peacock is a free ad-funded service - like Pluto TV. You pay to reduce the amount of ads on Peacock

The version that will appear on Q certainly is. There are two other tiers, though, the top one of which is advertisement free.

---------- Post added at 11:28 ---------- Previous post was at 11:26 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36088018)
My Sources just seen paperwork on Sky Replay closing today.

As of January 2021 I have ban sources from using any Do Not post orders on me. So I am just passing on any info I get from my Sources.

Your sources appear to be a little behind the curve, MB. Your CF sources appear to be more reliable.

jfman 31-07-2021 13:06

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
I’d be extremely surprised if BT would want to take such a strategic decision while trying to court investors. It’d be easier to roll over the current terms for 12 months and have the new party involved in the decision making process.

As OB says, it’s essentially guaranteed income from a customer base unlikely to subscribe to a standalone service.

That is if the contract is expiring at all.

RichardCoulter 31-07-2021 15:16

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36088094)
I’d be extremely surprised if BT would want to take such a strategic decision while trying to court investors. It’d be easier to roll over the current terms for 12 months and have the new party involved in the decision making process.

As OB says, it’s essentially guaranteed income from a customer base unlikely to subscribe to a standalone service.

That is if the contract is expiring at all.

It could be that BT want to extend the contract for a relatively short time for the reasons you say (or because they intend to go down the streaming route), but VM want a longer term contract??

I wouldn't pay for it as a standalone product and I agree that most other people wouldn't either.

Since LG bought the company, Virgin have made it clear to channel operators that if things don't go their way, that they are prepared to withdraw channels.

Also, if VM have got wind of a definitive plan to go streaming, they will eventually have to face any backlash from customers anyway, so why not sooner rather than later?

jfman 31-07-2021 15:37

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36088107)
It could be that BT want to extend the contract for a relatively short time for the reasons you say (or because they intend to go down the streaming route), but VM want a longer term contract??

I wouldn't pay for it as a standalone product and I agree that most other people wouldn't either.

Since LG bought the company, Virgin have made it clear to channel operators that if things don't go their way, that they are prepared to withdraw channels.

Also, if VM have got wind of a definitive plan to go streaming, they will eventually have to face any backlash from customers anyway, so why not sooner rather than later?

BT won’t have definitive plans for anything re BT Sport - you can’t put half of your business up for sale and commit your as yet unidentifiable business partner to your business model. It only decreases the pool of potential investors.

The most obvious reason to accept a short term contract (over none) is that taking a hit later rather than now is an improved financial outcome. Regardless of how many people genuinely have BT Sport as a factor for subscribing tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, will be onto retentions.

RichardCoulter 31-07-2021 15:50

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36088113)
BT won’t have definitive plans for anything re BT Sport - you can’t put half of your business up for sale and commit your as yet unidentifiable business partner to your business model. It only decreases the pool of potential investors.

The most obvious reason to accept a short term contract (over none) is that taking a hit later rather than now is an improved financial outcome. Regardless of how many people genuinely have BT Sport as a factor for subscribing tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, will be onto retentions.

AFAIK any initial interest shown in buying the BT Sport channels came to nothing. Perhaps they intend to make it (more?) profitable by cutting out the middleman and keeping all the subs* by streaming??

* They would have to pay a commission to VM if they put this on VM. Perhaps this is what any dispute is about. Wasn't it Disney + who wouldn't join because VM wanted too big a cut?

jfman 31-07-2021 15:54

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36088114)
AFAIK any initial interest shown in buying the BT Sport channels came to nothing. Perhaps they intend to make it (more?) profitable by cutting out the middleman and keeping all the subs* by streaming??

* They would have to pay a commission to VM if they put this on VM. Perhaps this is what any dispute is about. Wasn't it Disney + who wouldn't join because VM wanted too big a cut?

I’d say they are more likely to exit the market entirely.

Media Boy UK 31-07-2021 16:01

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36087910)
Not a good time for digitalbitrate's Virgin Media monitor to be offline.

DBR is working now.

epsilon 31-07-2021 16:05

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36088114)
AFAIK any initial interest shown in buying the BT Sport channels came to nothing. Perhaps they intend to make it (more?) profitable by cutting out the middleman and keeping all the subs* by streaming??

* They would have to pay a commission to VM if they put this on VM. Perhaps this is what any dispute is about. Wasn't it Disney + who wouldn't join because VM wanted too big a cut?

Speaking of interest in buying the BT Sport channels (or lack of interest):
https://www.mediamole.co.uk/entertai...rt_457476.html

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36088117)
DBR is working now.

It reappeared sometime yesterday.

Media Boy UK 31-07-2021 16:07

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
TiVo has reveal that Eurosport UHD and BBC Red Button HD are both showing listing after August 11th.

Eurosport 3 HD to Eurosport 9 HD will have "Coming soon" from 2am on August 9th.

RichardCoulter 31-07-2021 16:10

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36088115)
I’d say they are more likely to exit the market entirely.

Well, i've just been reading that BT Sport no longer has some of the rights that they previously had. Maybe it is actually winding down.

epsilon 31-07-2021 16:15

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36088120)
TiVo has reveal that Eurosport UHD and BBC Red Button HD are both showing listing after August 11th.

Eurosport 3 HD to Eurosport 9 HD will have "Coming soon" from 2am on August 9th.

The "Coming soon" listings could be because the entire listings originally were "Coming soon" and they only updated for actual content.

Media Boy UK 31-07-2021 16:17

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36088118)
Speaking of interest in buying the BT Sport channels (or lack of interest):
https://www.mediamole.co.uk/entertai...rt_457476.html

ITV was not going to buy BT Sport anyway after all ITV got they feet burned in 2002 with the ITV Digital / ITV Sport Channel carry on.

epsilon 31-07-2021 16:21

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36088125)
ITV was not going to but BT Sport anyway after all ITV got they feet burned in 2002 with the ITV Digital / ITV Sport Channel.

At least they have confirmed that they won't be buying. I doubt that ITV have a lot of spare cash around following the downturn in the advertising market during lockdown.

Hugh 31-07-2021 17:06

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36088121)
Well, i've just been reading that BT Sport no longer has some of the rights that they previously had. Maybe it is actually winding down.

Can I ask where you read that, please?

RichardCoulter 31-07-2021 19:19

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36088130)
Can I ask where you read that, please?

I can't remember as I was surfing the internet. From what I remember, it said something along the lines of BT Sport had lost a fair few rights over the last one or two years and were now going to/have lost the Women's Championship League and Bundesligue. It was also speculated that they would lose WWE to Comcast to put onto Peacock as has happened outside the UK.

Legendkiller2k 31-07-2021 21:08

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36088142)
I can't remember as I was surfing the internet. From what I remember, it said something along the lines of BT Sport had lost a fair few rights over the last one or two years and were now going to/have lost the Women's Championship League and Bundesligue. It was also speculated that they would lose WWE to Comcast to put onto Peacock as has happened outside the UK.

As far as i know the WWE/BT contract was a 7 year deal, unless something has changed aka WWE bought the contract back.

RichardCoulter 31-07-2021 23:01

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36088154)
As far as i know the WWE/BT contract was a 7 year deal, unless something has changed aka WWE bought the contract back.

Found this:

https://cultaholic.com/posts/peacock-to-launch-in-uk

Legendkiller2k 31-07-2021 23:29

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36088158)

That'll be the network the flagship shows will still be on BTsport as will the ppvs aswell as peacock if network closes, just like it is now ppvs are both on btsport box office and WWE Network.

ozsat 01-08-2021 07:22

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
In the US you have to subscribe to Peacock to get the WWE Network material - it is not available on the free ad-funded package.
Also, they do not get the weekly Raw and Smackdown shows until at least 28 days after they transmission on other networks as these rights are different. So currently on US Peacock the latest shows are from the last week in June and we are in August.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36088159)
That'll be the network the flagship shows will still be on BTsport as will the ppvs aswell as peacock if network closes, just like it is now ppvs are both on btsport box office and WWE Network.


Media Boy UK 01-08-2021 15:53

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Virgin Media do have some spare cash due to FOX being axe as TV Channels by Disney. But BT has come to the table with nothing new to give Virgin Media this time around.

Last time in 2018 BT give Virgin Media the BT Sport UHD Channel.

Maybe for all we know BT wants more pennys per head or Virgin Media wants more % from the BT Sport PPVS*.

*In 2018 BT Sport did not offer WWE on PPV.

vincerooney 01-08-2021 22:54

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36088165)
In the US you have to subscribe to Peacock to get the WWE Network material - it is not available on the free ad-funded package.
Also, they do not get the weekly Raw and Smackdown shows until at least 28 days after they transmission on other networks as these rights are different. So currently on US Peacock the latest shows are from the last week in June and we are in August.

If Peacock becomes Sky exclusive and they take the WWE network away i'll be fuming haha

muppetman11 02-08-2021 10:41

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
You can always find Pantomimes in your local area Vince.

Media Boy UK 02-08-2021 11:45

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Found that two "total channels" has been removed from the NIT overnight.

I think the channels are Get Moving HD (May 1st) and BET (April 8th).

Legendkiller2k 02-08-2021 11:52

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36088213)
If Peacock becomes Sky exclusive and they take the WWE network away i'll be fuming haha

You'll be able to subscribe direct to peacock one would imagine, prices prob similar to USA but in gbp for us so £4.99p/m and £9.99p/m at a guess.

OLD BOY 02-08-2021 12:53

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36088237)
You'll be able to subscribe direct to peacock one would imagine, prices prob similar to USA but in gbp for us so £4.99p/m and £9.99p/m at a guess.

I would have thought that all three tiers would be available on other platforms before long, Legendkiller. Sky just happen to be getting the free ad-adulterated one first.

1andrew1 02-08-2021 13:45

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36088237)
You'll be able to subscribe direct to peacock one would imagine, prices prob similar to USA but in gbp for us so £4.99p/m and £9.99p/m at a guess.

Would it be an app in its own right or will it just be a pass on Now TV or indeed as part of the Entertainment Pass on Now TV?

I imagine Comcast has had these debates internally and decided a route.

Phunkenstein 02-08-2021 14:16

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36088253)
Would it be an app in its own right or will it just be a pass on Now TV or indeed as part of the Entertainment Pass on Now TV?

I imagine Comcast has had these debates internally and decided a route.

That hasn’t been immediately clear but I saw this tweet from one of Peacock’s Senior Tech People…

https://twitter.com/mattdeco/status/...597383683?s=21

I believe the plan is initially you’ll access Peacock as a section in the Sky platform app and then a standalone app will come later, with Fire TV and Google TV supported at launch


Seems to suggest on Sky and Now it’s integrated into the existing ecosystems - which would make sense given that Peacock was built off the back of them - but a stand-alone will eventually be released, which in itself raises questions about why Comcast would want two potentially competing products in the market but i guess it remains to be seen…

Media Boy UK 02-08-2021 14:29

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Discovery, ITV and Sky are eyeing up bids for Channel 4.

https://www.reuters.com/business/dis...ph-2021-07-31/

epsilon 02-08-2021 17:50

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087904)
Do you have an source for that BT Sport axe as broadcast channels story?

https://www.forumbox.co.uk/forum/thr...treaming-only/

I've just been told that the codes for BT subscription packages have now been removed from the slate. Panic over?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36088235)
Found that two "total channels" has been removed from the NIT overnight.

I think the channels are Get Moving HD (May 1st) and BET (April 8th).

Get Moving has been partly removed. BET was removed early in July.

Media Boy UK 02-08-2021 19:09

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36088284)
I've just been told that the codes for BT subscription packages have now been removed from the slate. Panic over?

Good to see some good news in 2021. And it on my 40th birthday week.

Media Boy UK 03-08-2021 11:06

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Media Boy Sources has given me the head up on an big announcement coming soon on an streaming service.

OLD BOY 03-08-2021 11:27

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36088113)
BT won’t have definitive plans for anything re BT Sport - you can’t put half of your business up for sale and commit your as yet unidentifiable business partner to your business model. It only decreases the pool of potential investors.

The most obvious reason to accept a short term contract (over none) is that taking a hit later rather than now is an improved financial outcome. Regardless of how many people genuinely have BT Sport as a factor for subscribing tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, will be onto retentions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36088340)
Media Boy Sources has given me the head up on an big announcement coming soon on an streaming service.

Well, let’s hope it’s Disney+. That will do for starters…:rolleyes:

1andrew1 03-08-2021 11:57

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36088345)
Well, let’s hope it’s Disney+. That will do for starters…:rolleyes:

If it's a big announcement, that would be a good guess. :tu:

1701-e 03-08-2021 14:13

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36088340)
Media Boy Sources has given me the head up on an big announcement coming soon on an streaming service.

Coming soon...... :D

Carth 03-08-2021 14:36

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36088363)
Coming soon...... :D

Not here it won't be :p:

Itshim 03-08-2021 17:13

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
In this case we are Greenland sharks !!!!

Media Boy UK 03-08-2021 19:45

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36088340)
Media Boy Sources has given me the head up on an big announcement coming soon on an streaming service.

More info from My Sources. As of August 3rd at 7.40pm.

Media Boy Sources has reveal that an un - name streaming service is soon to launch on Virgin Media UK.

And my sources say this new streaming service is "an million pound deal for Virgin Media 02".

But I still to get the name and prices details for this soon to launch on Virgin Media streaming service.

1701-e 03-08-2021 19:50

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Apple+

OLD BOY 03-08-2021 20:32

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36088396)
Apple+

For a million quid?It’ll be Disney + or Discovery +, surely?

Dave42 03-08-2021 20:41

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36088404)
For a million quid?It’ll be Disney + or Discovery +, surely?

has sky exclusivity run out on that yet

OLD BOY 03-08-2021 20:43

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36088412)
has sky exclusivity run out on that yet

Nobody knows for sure. I think Disney is now out of the exclusivity period, but Discovery may have some time to run.

Media Boy UK 03-08-2021 21:12

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36088393)
More info from My Sources. As of August 3rd at 7.40pm.

Media Boy Sources has reveal that an un - name streaming service is soon to launch on Virgin Media UK.

And my sources say this new streaming service is "an million pound deal for Virgin Media 02".

But I still to get the name and prices details for this soon to launch on Virgin Media streaming service.

UPDATE: Virgin Media still to sign deal and talks are "ongoing".

Legendkiller2k 03-08-2021 21:14

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36088413)
Nobody knows for sure. I think Disney is now out of the exclusivity period, but Discovery may have some time to run.

November this year Discovery+ exclusivity expires with SKY.
Apple+ is being tested on SKYQ a code has appeared for a Apple+ app for SKYQ.
AMC are talking to youview, SKY and VM this won't be for AMC channel it'll be for Shudder (has a live channel on its own app) and Acorn tv.

cheekyangus 03-08-2021 22:10

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36088418)
November this year Discovery+ exclusivity expires with SKY.
Apple+ is being tested on SKYQ a code has appeared for a Apple+ app for SKYQ.
AMC are talking to youview, SKY and VM this won't be for AMC channel it'll be for Shudder (has a live channel on its own app) and Acorn tv.

Many thanks Legendkiller2k.

Media Boy UK 04-08-2021 13:33

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
I feel an Media Boy EXCLUSIVE coming on.

So watch this space.

denphone 04-08-2021 15:14

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
For how long...;)

Media Boy UK 04-08-2021 17:01

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36088393)
More info from My Sources. As of August 3rd at 7.40pm.

Media Boy Sources has reveal that an un - name streaming service is soon to launch on Virgin Media UK.

And my sources say this new streaming service is "an million pound deal for Virgin Media 02".

But I still to get the name and prices details for this soon to launch on Virgin Media streaming service.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36088396)
Apple+

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36088404)
For a million quid?It’ll be Disney + or Discovery +, surely?

Media Boy HQ has today been given the name of the streaming service that Virgin Media UK are in talks with over an launch.

All we are can say at time of posting it one of the streaming services on the top of post as posted by 1701-e and OLD BOY.

---------- Post added at 15:27 ---------- Previous post was at 15:25 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36088476)
For how long...;)

Hoping to post it within the next 24 hours. Waiting on sources want to give me more information on the story. But I can reveal it nothing to do with that the Streaming service story we are also running with right now.

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Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: Media Boy Sources confirmed that Discovery to axe linear channels by 2023.

https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...confirmed.html

Hugh 04-08-2021 17:58

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Strange - a month ago, Discovery said they were "totally committed" to linear channels

https://mediatel.co.uk/news/2021/07/...treaming-wars/
Quote:

In the wake of Disney announcing that it will close linear channels in some countries, another of the major Pay TV channel groups, Discovery, has made it clear that it is totally committed to its linear channels.

Lydia Fairfax, SVP, head of commercial partnerships for EMEA at Discovery, said the channels are both a first window for content and also a shop window for her company’s direct-to-consumer streaming service, Discovery+.

“The last quarter was one of the strongest Q1s on record for our linear channels and they served a dual purpose because they were also driving people into Discovery+,” she revealed.

“We have been using a Red Button facility on the channels to link viewers through to discovery+ and that has driven huge acquisition numbers. So, we will have a dual strategy [linear channels plus Discovery+] moving forwards.”

"Speaking at Connected TV World Summit last month, Fairfax added that Discovery is committed to the Pay TV bundle, “and our channels have a key place in those bundles.”

“For us, it is important to continue to invest in channels and we will keep growing them and funding new content for them.”

Media Boy UK 04-08-2021 18:05

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36088518)
Strange - a month ago, Discovery said they were "totally committed" to linear channels

https://mediatel.co.uk/news/2021/07/...treaming-wars/

Hope you are right - Just passing on what my source told me today.

But I feel the Discovery (as of August 4th 2021) need some work doing on it brands:

Discovery Channel (Rename Discovery Showcase)
Discovery Turbo and Quest become one (Rename Quest)
TLC and Quest Red become one (Rename TLC)

All the rest stay as now.

Hugh 04-08-2021 18:13

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36088520)
Hope you are right - Just passing on what my source told me today.

Can I suggest you try and validate your "source", rather than just repeating what they say - that’s best practice…

ScottishSteve 04-08-2021 18:17

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36088520)
Hope you are right - Just passing on what my source told me today.

Would that be the same 'source' that said Sky Replay wasn't getting axed and then less than 24 hours later it was.

Sources should be reliable and not hear-say and drops any credibility you have left every time you publish it as 'exclusive' news.

Media Boy UK 04-08-2021 18:23

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36088524)
Would that be the same 'source' that said Sky Replay wasn't getting axed and then less than 24 hours later it was.

Sources should be reliable and not hear-say and drops any credibility you have left every time you publish it as 'exclusive' news.

An other sources I have got 5 sources.

On July 29th only Sky One was on the list of channels seen by my Sources set to be close by Sky. But on July 30th Sky Replay also appeared - I did say this on July 30th.

I cant see any info Sky Replay on this link: https://www.skygroup.sky/en-gb/artic...se-and-sky-max

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36088521)
Can I suggest you try and validate your "source", rather than just repeating what they say - that’s best practice…

Sky Sports News repeating what their sources say all a time (BBC Sport is one of the Sky Sports Sources).;)

RichardCoulter 04-08-2021 18:41

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
For what it's worth, I was privy to a Discovery document a few years ago that said that their ultimate aim was to move all their channels to a streaming service and just keep one linear channel to showcase what they had to offer.

Since then they have introduced FTA channels, which I doubt they would close as their only source of income is ad revenue and launched Discovery +.

I have no idea of any timescales. Eurosport wasn't mentioned, but if they did move that online, I assume it would go onto the Eurosport Player. Maybe they will eventually merge them together??

Sight of this document does make me think that what MB has been told may well be correct. However, it's important to stress that company plans can and do change. In addition, it's worth noting that it's believed that Discovery signed a long term deal with Sky. I couldn't see the Discovery channels remaining on Sky and being removed from VM because of the John Malone connection with Discovery and Virgin.

Are the Discovery channels available anywhere else apart from Sky & VM (bar their FTA channels)?

Just seen that the MB source says that they are to close their FTA channels. Anyone know what their ratings are like? If they're making money, I can't see them closing them.

Media Boy UK 04-08-2021 18:55

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36088528)
Are the Discovery channels available anywhere else apart from Sky & VM (bar their FTA channels)?

Base on the Discovery Channel UK wikipedia page Discovery Inc have sign deal with the following networks (numbers on networks may very):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discov...ish_TV_channel)

Virgin Media Ireland.
WightFibre
BT
Plusnet
Eir Vision


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