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gordon861 20-10-2021 10:13

Re: Hub 5 at no extra cost
 
Well the thread came back, so it looks like it was just hidden.

But of course, the VirginMedia MOD Team totally ignore any atempt to reach out to them short of sending a PM. But I can't send them a PM because the last time I did I was threatened with sanctions, despite another MOD asking me to do so.

Synthetic 20-10-2021 10:18

Re: Hub 5 at no extra cost
 
I wonder if the 2.5 port will be the modem mode WAN port, or if they're going to be awkward and limit that to a 1gig port

SnoopZ 20-10-2021 10:18

Re: Hub 5 at no extra cost
 
Any news on the manufacturer and chipset?

gordon861 20-10-2021 10:38

Re: Hub 5 at no extra cost
 
Only official stuff seems to be:
https://news.virginmediao2.co.uk/vir...adband-router/

For some reason MalwareBytes warns about the site though.

BenMcr 20-10-2021 10:40

Re: Hub 5 at no extra cost
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36098161)
Any news on the manufacturer and chipset?

Quote:

Originally Posted by gordon861 (Post 36098166)
Only official stuff seems to be:
https://news.virginmediao2.co.uk/vir...adband-router/

For some reason MalwareBytes warns about the site though.

Isp review have page for it too

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...nd-router.html

Quote:

Additional Hub 5 Specs

Broadband – DOCSIS3.1/3.0 Broadcom 3390S

WiFi:
5 x Antennae
4 x 4 MiMo 5Ghz Broadcom 6715
3 x 3 MiMo 2.4Ghz Broadcom 6710
WiFi 6

Ethernet:
1 x 2.5Gbps Broadcom 54991EL
3 x 1Gbps Broadcom 3390S

gordon861 20-10-2021 10:48

Re: Hub 5 at no extra cost
 
Looking at that picture, what's the chances the Modem Mode is via port 1 rather than 4.

joglynne 20-10-2021 11:08

Re: Hub 5 at no extra cost
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gordon861 (Post 36098170)
Looking at that picture, what's the chances the Modem Mode is via port 1 rather than 4.

I'll be interested in hearing how you get on with the Hub 5. :tu:

gordon861 20-10-2021 11:15

Re: Hub 5 at no extra cost
 
It would be nice if it can replace my 10 year old ASUS Router.

I expect to be doing a lot of screen shots and photos of the manual on Monday if it arrives.

roughbeast 20-10-2021 11:39

Re: Hub 5 at no extra cost
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36098157)
I wish they would define eligible customers but I thought I read being offered to older hub 3 customers first and I was on the original trial but only on 200mbit.

If HUB 5 is part of the push to 'future-proof' then why dish it out to people on lower tiers with older hubs that are doing their job atm?

Surely eligible customers are those on 1.2Gb who might benefit from the 2.5Gb port.

BenMcr 20-10-2021 11:47

Re: Hub 5 at no extra cost
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 36098184)
If HUB 5 is part of the push to 'future-proof' then why dish it out to people on lower tiers with older hubs that are doing their job atm?

Surely eligible customers are those on 1.2Gb who might benefit from the 2.5Gb port.

Any controlled pilot of hardware needs to be done for a range of customers, not just the 'top tier' people.

That means that you get a good idea of how different usage performs for both the customer experience and also on the systems in Virgin Media.

Carth 20-10-2021 12:29

Re: Hub 5 at no extra cost
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36098185)
Any controlled pilot of hardware needs to be done for a range of customers, not just the 'top tier' people.

That means that you get a good idea of how different usage performs for both the customer experience and also on the systems in Virgin Media.

Does this mean I might get a free one for my basic 100M and Tivo? :D

roughbeast 20-10-2021 14:03

Re: Hub 5 at no extra cost
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gordon861 (Post 36098180)
It would be nice if it can replace my 10 year old ASUS Router.

I expect to be doing a lot of screen shots and photos of the manual on Monday if it arrives.

It depends what you use your ASUS (ahem) for. If you use it as a VPN server, for example, I doubt if VM would provide a router that will do anything much more than basic routing, port forwarding, firewalling and WiFi.

nffc 20-10-2021 22:14

Re: Hub 5 at no extra cost
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36098130)
Everyone will need a Hub 3 or later in order to complete the decommission of the cable analogue phone network.

I see the reason for this but can't think it's a good idea.


It may well be true these days that most people have mobiles and the coverage is good where they live, and that they are on a deal which means that calling VM from the mobile to report a fault is both possible and not crippling with their tariff (e.g. they aren't still on PAYG).


But when the old cable phone network is removed, or turned off as they're not gonna remove the cables in houses, making and receiving phone calls will be dependent on VOIP which means that if the internet is down then this won't work either. And you're not gonna call faults to have a chat so will only be able to do it at this time ;)


And sure this is a minority case but it'd need installing in principle a broadband connection in people's houses who have say for example VM phone (with maybe TV as well) but no BB if they have no computers or smartphones/ipads and surely in the short term this is also going to be expense for VM with all the engineer visits to install the termination point for a hub purely to use VOIP as well as the replacement handsets they'll need if existing ones can't be terminated (or used via an adapter) with a normal phone socket.

BenMcr 21-10-2021 00:38

Re: Hub 5 at no extra cost
 
That's all already happening as some areas are already moving to Hub only based lines.

Customers who don't have Virgin Fibre still get a Hub 3 (or possibly a 4) but without any active broadband service, only the phone sockets are active.

Anyone who needs an engineer visit will get one

https://www.virginmedia.com/help/hom...one/switchover

nffc 21-10-2021 07:38

Re: Hub 5 at no extra cost
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36098279)
That's all already happening as some areas are already moving to Hub only based lines.

Customers who don't have Virgin Fibre still get a Hub 3 (or possibly a 4) but without any active broadband service, only the phone sockets are active.

Anyone who needs an engineer visit will get one

https://www.virginmedia.com/help/hom...one/switchover

Yes, but the dependence on a working internet connection to use the landline phone is a big flaw (admittedly, I think Openreach are planning something similar) when the internet connection is down. It means you'd have to use a mobile.


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