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In the UK the main 24 hours rolling news channel, is BBC and Sky News. However, GB News is set to launch very soon and today have announced they are hiring. Here’s their logo:

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1611578275

https://gbnews.livevacancies.co.uk/#/

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It's going to be interesting to see how this channel can make money. Sky News is a loss-leader. I guess there may be more of a focus on commentary and discussion and less on live reporting from across the globe.

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There have been accusations that this new channel will be far right haven, however, it’s chairman, Andrew Neil says it won’t be an echo chamber for either left or right.

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Lets hope Andrew Neil's words hold true because l would not like our UK
TV news output to go like America..

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News is regulated by Ofcom so it shouldn't go down the US route.

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I am not sure if it's going to be heavily partisan but I do think they're going to lean into what makes American news networks profitable and that's outrage mongering and polarising debates. It's going to be people shouting at each other, clips of people being 'owned' by each other and it will make it's money by trying to further divide up our politics into two or more tribes all convinced the others are **** and legitimate enemies of the people.

The kind of journalism where a team of professionally trained journalists spend weeks, months even years rooting out a story is not profitable. Nor is paying someone to sit in court for weeks and getting a handful of articles at the end of it. Instead you can just get grifting imbeciles to shout at each other for segment after segment and watch the clicks roll in.

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:tu:

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Interesting name , 'GB News'. They've already accepted Northern Ireland is a gone?

Will gladly pay VM extra not to have this channel.

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Deranged way of looking at it, BBC = British Broadcasting Corporation.

Sky News, no mention of Ireland in either of the current News channel names.

You have a very warped sense of reality Mr K. (and a miserable one) A Victor Meldrew wannabe.

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Yes Victor is a top bloke and spoke a lot of sense :)

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I was on a bout his "miserable character traits" equals yours, his storyline is fictional.

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Really ?? He'd fit in on types of channels like GB News then. :D

Love you too btw. :romance:

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It's time we had real news and not political opinion like we get from the usual channels.

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It hasn't even started yet, noone knows what it is going to be like, you are using that foresight of yours again that did you no favours during a certain democratic exercise that you love to hate. ;)

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And the usual newspapers...

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Like the Guardian.

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One of many...

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I suspect you know this and are on the wind up but this does appear be shaping up to be a commentary channel given the hosts they've lined up and the noises they're making about what this will be.

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What, like the Daily Express that you often quote? :erm:

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No, I know nothing about it only it's a new news channel and Andrew Neil is involved.
just hope it's not the usual one sided lefty drivel.

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All newspapers are as bad as each other, with each of their own preferred reader base.

I do not buy any. They are all a waste of money, it's yesterday's news anyway.

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Yes. but I don't read it I only post it.

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The last time l bought a newspaper it was a horse racing newspaper.

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l certainly agree with you on that.

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Not if you follow them online - i often find the Telegraph/Guardian have news stories before the rolling TV news services. Of course they are very selective on which ones they report ! Guess there are lots of Fake News filters to go through these days.

Where do you get your news from btw Mick? I'd change your US ones, as they've led you up the garden path there....

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I do not follow any US news outlets because why would I, when I live in the UK? :dozey:

I've said many times on this board that I get my news from multiple sources, I don't just blindly follow one source every time.

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Where would you get a saddle to fit a newspaper?

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The news reporting itself is regulated, talking heads giving opinions on it isn't

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https://bylinetimes.com/2020/09/28/o...t-of-interest/


Next... Trump Television... a truthful TV station.... ha, ha, ha

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Lame. :rolleyes:

Andrew Neil is no fan of Trump.

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Don't you have to read it before you post it, or do you just cut and paste at random from the Express website, with your eyes closed?

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From both sides of the political spectrum.

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Absolutely.

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Newspapers (at least some of them) still pay actual full time journalists. Soon all we're going to get is unprofessional chancing grifters providing us all the 'news' on blogs, twitter and YouTube.

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Apply for GB News, or our own troll splatter Towny can apply. You'd both be very balanced. :angel:

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I find a story on a real news site then post a similar story from the express.it makes certain people feel they are superior in intellect and makes for an interesting exchange of views.
I sleep with one eye open, You have too in my line of business.

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You're far too young to be this cynical (but you're spot on) :D

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Latest from Andrew Neil on GB News:

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The man behind this channel has let it be known he wants to campaign on the channel for an enquiry into MPs, Peers and business people who "betrayed" the country to a foreign entity, namely the EU. This is never going to end is it and all the while the two sides become more entrenched and the hatred more visceral whilst the vast majority of us sit here thinking why is this still even an issue

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What channel will this be on VM

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Don't think it's been assigned one yet.

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All I want from the news is neutrality and facts.Not gossip,not innuendo,not inference and respect for ALL parties.

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most of them shot down by the iron dome.

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They still existed, which show intent. Not all were stopped and there were causalities.
Bias can often manifest itself by not reporting certain things, or just use of a single word can change the emphasis given. or by not challenging what people say.

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Many fell short and landed in Gaza where they were launched from.

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If true, that will also be the fault of Israel for not shooting them down in time :rolleyes:

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Dream on.

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With the Warner-Discovery merger on the horizon and Discovery being a major investor in GB News and Warner owning CNN, I wonder if Warner-Discovery may be tempted to withdraw from GB News. (In the same way that Comcast/NBC Universal did with Euronews when it acquired Sky and Sky News.)

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626 starts 13 June

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A downmarket shouty 'what I reckon' channel for Sun/Express readers, you'll love it !

The news is the news and was never meant to be exciting.

It's always the same:-
1. The climate is screwed.
2. Britain becoming more irrelevant and smaller by the day.
3. The latest Royal to do something silly.
4. Our latest sporting failure.
5. And finally, cat stuck up a tree.

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Did Meghan put the cat up the tree?

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I should think so, she's the most evil person on the planet. And GB News will doubtless expose her nastiness ;)

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Time will tell, I am looking forward to it.

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I really hope they do....;)

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I think you will find that all that nonsense is what GB News was set up to neutralise, providing news that people actually want to hear.

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That'll be interesting when you consider you and I have probably quite different tastes in news, but maybe you're right and they'll report more about the things that happen in nonwhite non English speaking countries ;).

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Most news by definition is bad news. It's not that we want to hear it, it's more that's is useful to hear it.

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I don't think there's much 'news' that is useful to me, even the regional news is about as appetising as mowing the lawn in a thunderstorm :rolleyes:

Much of it is centered around the latest 23 yr old unmarried mother of 6 gender confused activist, who is sticking leaflets on telegraph poles in order to highlight that she can't feed her kids now that her Sky/Mobile contract has gone up £3 to £152 a month

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Can’t say I’ve seen those stories in the Times, BBC, Sky, ITV, Yorkshire Post, or other major News outlets.

Maybe they’re just in the papers you read?

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BBC News has become less and less a purveyor of information about what is happening, but a torrent of "articles" on subjects that don't affect the majority. Recently it has been flooded with stories about women, black women, foreign women, LGTVHD4k "women" and then more of the same. And then when it does flip into "news mode" it is full of people with crystal balls saying what is "likely, expected or possible" in the future.

The way they report covid-19 daily stats is stuck to a set format, but at least it is relevant news.

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It'll almost certainly tell their audience what they want to hear.

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It didn't start too well, video and audio out of sync. Amateurs!

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They're working with a smaller budget that Sky and ITV apparently and even then the majority of it has gone on some of their 'big name' presenters so the crew can be forgiven for some missteps early on.

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That’s not what I meant. Most people want to hear about what is going on in different parts of the world rather than constant ‘personal stories’ of one disgruntled group or another.

A more balanced reporting of Brexit and other issues is required. All we seem to hear on the Beeb is remainer arguments. We want to hear both sides, please.

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Seems to me you only want to hear your views.

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Their online feed having issue too at the moment

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lots of REEEEEeeeeeeeee'ing on social media.

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The audio issues are weird since that's the kind of thing you think they can correct on rehearsal. The current guy has a weird echo effect where it sounds like amateur production that doesn't have proper mics and a soundproof room.

The internet feed is understandable since it's very hard to test to heavy load.

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Their tech support (Nigel) is too busy watching Netherlands v Ukraine. Don't blame him.

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That's the advantage he has by working from home during the Covid 'crisis' :D

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The good news is with the extension is he can enjoy all of the Euros.

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What kind of masochist would do that? :D

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The channel has now started. What do people think of it so far?

Most of the comments that i've seen thus far relate to the technical problems, the dark studio & Andrew Neil's funeral suit!

Also complaints about the lack of subtitles & them laughing about a plane crash.

There have comparisons to the standard of the news on the Local TV channels.

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Still some technical problems this morning. They introduced a doctor who was against not lifting the restrictions but there must have been a miscommunication because the Doctor then argued for being cautious.

Right now they're doing a remote but their guest isn't coming through on the Mic. He is very quiet, I think what is coming though from him is from the host's mic.

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Never had these problems when we had Town Criers . . . progress eh tsk ;)

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The technical problems will be fixed in time. Not a huge statement on the future of the channel, it'll be if they can find an audience for an opinion led TV channel.

The other thing they need to fix is the lighting and camera set-up. I watched a bit of their morning show which has four main presenters but they've chosen to frame the entire desk in shot throughout the show, rather than cutting to close-ups of the current speaker, so they look oddly distant from the camera. The lighting is very dark as well.

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So it's not like bbc news then.

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I watched this morning, my indepth review so far is ..........meh.

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Not had a chance to watch GBeebies yet - probably give it a view later today.

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Whatever you think of BBC News it's technically well produced. The kind of thing you don't notice until it's not there anymore. Watch 30 mins of Sky or BBC then another of GB News and you'll notice it. The former channels are much better lit, much better shot, guests are ready on time with working mics and they then successfully transition between segments.

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How much does GB news cost you

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Nothing but then neither does Sky and they're really well produced. Besides I am only commenting on the quality of what is produced rather than it's value for money.

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yes but sky and the bbc have huge funding and years of experience, i imagine gb news going forward will iron out the glitches.

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Audio seems out of sync again?

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Damien, switch off that rubbish, and get outside, its summer ! 😎

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GB News reports BBC to Ofcom for ‘plot to sabotage opening broadcast’ LIVE on TV


GB News, chaired by veteran broadcaster Andrew Neil, has alerted the media regulator Ofcom, the Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) and the Government following a reported row over access to shared broadcast footage. The channel went live at 8pm on Sunday evening and bosses accused its competitors of blocking access to “pools” footage – videos of public events produced by the UK’s three largest broadcasters

In a strongly worded letter to authorities, GB News lawyers claim the alleged move by rivals could amount to “an abuse of their collective dominant position”.

It added: “If it is the case that UK pool members are conspiring to disrupt our clients’ entry to the UK news broadcasting market [this would be] wholly contrary to… fair and effective competition.”

The broadcast pooling system is run by the BBC, ITN and Sky.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/14...ge-Andrew-neil

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There was a similar headline in the Torygraph. Interesting they both single out the BBC in the headline and not Sky/ITN.

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It's not like they have an agenda ;)

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Don't listen to Mr K, Damien. GB News needs its viewer! :D

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Even the Torgraph has had to admit GB News is crap....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/gb-...tches-message/

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Ouch!

In a way it reminds me of the launch of Today in the mid 1980s. Made much, pre-launch, of the fact that it would substantially be printed in full colour, but when it came to it, most pages were slightly off-register (the four colour plates weren’t aligned properly, so the pictures looked muddy, with colourful haloes around the edges). Sometimes they were dreadfully misaligned. Correctly lining up the CMYK plates prior to rolling the printing press is basic stuff, but at launch they simply hadn’t managed to hire anyone good enough to get it bang on, first time, every time, under the pressure of daily newspaper deadlines.

Some of the stuff GBN is getting wrong at the moment is the sort of thing that a competent crew from a small production company would spot, correct and re-take, if they were out making a corporate video. The problem GBN has is it’s making its mistakes live on air. The lighting, costuming and audio shortcomings should be remedied within a few days, even if, as seems to be the case, they’ve been unable to attract hires with substantial experience of producing live news. If you can’t spot these sorts of mistakes and you don’t know how to correct them, you really shouldn’t be working with TV cameras in any context whatsoever.

The editorial direction is another matter entirely. This is obviously where all the money has been spent so you would hope they’d know what they’re doing. That remains to be seen.

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I was going to mention the audio quality, streaming from their website (thought i would give it a look) and the quality was atrocious, gave up after two minutes

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It's worth watching right now. I am not sure if it's banter or if these presenters really don't like each other but it's not working. Feels really unnatural.

And now they've played the wrong clip again.

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I think the problem with opinion-led programming is that it's actually quite hard to fill that time. The other channels can recycle the same packages over and over again but here they need to keep a dialogue going for hours on end.

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Please continue to hate watch and increase its numbers.

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A big day in Stormont today then off to the wrong reporter (in Yorkshire) with no sound then off to Northern Ireland with poor sound starting part way through the broadcast.

Then to Scotland with lots of echo but titled Doncaster.

It's like a spoof TV show.

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This is amazing.

They've gone to remote reporters. Keeping cutting to the wrong one, the voices all echo and I think they're talking about COVID approaches in different regions but one reporter talked about how Scotland need to score against England on Thursday.

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