F1 2023 Season Thread
 

It's that time of year again with Pre-Season Testing in Bahrain Feb 23-25th.

https://www.formula1.com/en/f1-live-lite.html
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/formula1/64734160
https://www.skysports.com/f1/live-bl...for-first-time

I really hope Mercedes don't produce another clanger of a car and they can race at the front again along with Red Bull and Ferrari.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1677147059

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Surely Mercedes can't be as bad as they were last year.

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Everyone is running Medium apart from Russel who has a T tyre whatever that is? Now listed as M on the below link.

Current Lap Timings
https://www.formula1.com/en/f1-live-lite.html

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Lets hope not, i've just watched the Ferrari go off track with porpoising so thats still a thing.

https://www.skysports.com/f1/live-bl...for-first-time

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I know the times are meaningless on testing but i always expect Mercedes to be higher up the list, the rumours of sandbagging will hit soon. lol

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Fastest times from day one of pre-season testing 2023

1 Max Verstappen (Ned) Red Bull one minute 32.837 seconds

2 Fernando Alonso (Spa) Aston Martin 1:32.866

3 Carlos Sainz (Spa) Ferrari 1:33.253

4 Charles Leclerc (Mon) Ferrari 1:33.267

5 Lando Norris (GB) McLaren 1:33.462

6 Lewis Hamilton (GB) Mercedes 1:33.508

7 Alex Albon (Tha) Williams 1:33.671 *

8 Zhou Guanyu (Chi) Alfa Romeo 1:33.723

9 George Russell (GB) Mercedes 1:34.174

10 Logan Sargeant (USA) Williams 1:34.324

11 Nico Hulkenberg (Ger) Haas 1:34.424

12 Valtteri Bottas (Fin) Alfa Romeo 1:34.558

13 Nyck De Vries (Ned) Alpha Tauri 1:34.559

14 Felipe Drugovich (Bra) Aston Martin 1:34.564

15 Yuki Tsunoda (Jpn) Alpha Tauri 1:34.671

16 Pierre Gasly (Fra) Alpine 1:34.822

17 Esteban Ocon (Fra) Alpine 1:34.871

18 Oscar Piastri (Aus) McLaren 1:34.888

19 Kevin Magnussen (Den) Haas 1:35.087

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The Cars.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1677239767
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1677239767
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1677239767
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1677239767

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Currently binging on the new series of Drive to Survive

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Sky multi screen showing logo for Bahrain 2022..... They need a new calendar lol

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It's nice to have a dedicated UHD channel on sky at last.

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I wish there was a cheap option just for watching F1, but I have to take the free option.

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Ssshhh, don't tell Mrs G how much Sky Sports costs every month - I only really watch F1 but we've had the sports pack for maybe 7 or 8 years now :shocked:.

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Strange, to me it's the most boring 'sport' in the world... They all end up at the beginning for no reason, what's the point ? If it was a London to Brighton race that would be far more challenging/fun.
Give me a Test Match with no hope of a result anyday ;)

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Qualifying for the Bahrain Grand Prix gets underway at 3pm.

It's looking like Aston Martin have a good car and will be in the mix with Red Bull and Ferrari, Mercedes not such a great car but the drivers are saying atleast it's not porpoising like last year.

After watching the practice sessions from Friday my prediction for the top 4 below is below but I hope Lewis is higher up.

1. Max Verstappen
2. Fernando Alonso
3. Carlos Sainz
4. Lewis Hamilton

Top 10 Final Practice times
1. Fernando Alonso (Aston Martin) - 1:32.340

2. Max Verstappen (Red Bull) +0.005

3. Sergio Perez (Red Bull) +0.106

4. Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes) +0.215

5. Charles Leclerc (Ferrari) +0.284

6. George Russell (Mercedes) +0.391

7. Lance Stroll (Aston Martin +0.579

8 Carlos Sainz (Ferrari) +0.605

9. Oscar Piastri (McLaren) +0.705

10. Pierre Gasly (Alpine) +0.724

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Disappointing to see Red Bull 1,2 those cars are so strong.

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SkyQ now offers live stream of all 20 onboard cameras via the red button.

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I have to make do with markkystreams today for a single race feed, if Sky didn't stop anyone else paying for it from other sources I'd gladly pay £5 a month for it, we can't even pay for F1 Pro in this country and view the races because of Sky!

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Well that was a joke of an ending to the Australian Grand Prix!

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Totally agree. To just have a formation lap just to meet lap number is IMHO rediculous on how they base it. Logically before the start of a race you have a formation lap berore the start of a race which isn't counted as a lap for a race, so if you have one after a red flag that shouldn't be counted as a race lap.

We lost 5 racing laps due to this which (potentially) could have changed the result.

F1 is becoming more of a farce since Hamilton was robbed of his Championship and record number of consecutive wins in Abu Dahabi 2 years ago.

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I can’t help but think it’s not helped by the coverage. Sky had endless speculation about the kind of start and order of the restart when it’d have taken (and did, when they looked after the race) about 30 seconds to confirm that Max hadn’t reached the end of sector one when the red flag came out.

Sky give the perception that race control are sitting debating options and plucking one of them out of thin air.

If they recognised there was no basis for cutting the race short (it’s not like it was dark, wet, or time ran out) and there was no reference point for a running order than the restart before it minus the cars that retired. It was actually straightforward.

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Race control would have known immediately that the first sector had not been completed as they would not have had any timings retered at the very least..Race control know exactly where any car is at anytime on the circuit during a race.

Now as I understand the rules if the first sector isn't cleared by the leader the lap does not count. I fully admit I could be wrong. If I'm right that means following the 3rd red flag there was still 2 laps to go. 1 fomation lap and then 1 racing lap as lap 57 didn't count as a lap.

What do you think?

I'm going back to bed for a couple of hours but eilling to discuss further later.

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I was hoping for Max's car to break down on the restart for some extra controversy, giving Lewis the win.

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It’s certainly confusing, and I’ve a feeling that the rules are different on whether the red flag lap “counts” or not depending on whether it’s the start of the race or not.

A separate thing I’ve got thinking about is how dangerous the “2 lap shootout” scenario is. If you’ve got 14 cars on track (I think) nobody is that far from points or taking home a points haul far above their driving and car performance. Points that could be worth millions of dollars to the teams. I wonder if this “lottery” is why team principals say they want to finish under green flag conditions.

The little bit of risk aversion that says on lap 1 keep it on the road, anything can happen, strategy, safety cars, red flags etc. is gone. Even say 10 laps out from the end if you’ve got an out of position Ferrari (Sainz) or Red Bull (Perez) sitting next to you part of a driver must think who are they really racing on track.

In two laps without DRS you might as well go all in.

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Magazine Editor sacked for AI generated Michael Schumacher interview.

How the xxxxx did she think this would be a good thing to publish?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/65361193

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The only excitement at Baku DRS centre was the near miss with the press by Ocon in the last lap pitstop

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I have know unfollowed all pages to do with F1, as I cannot watch that RB and Winger Spice has done to the sport I would watch without fail, even on holiday.


I do follow Lewis Hamilton though.

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it's absolutely no different to other past iterations, where there has been a dominant car and driver, where it's the case that either the No.1 or No.2 driver will win Grand Prix's

Schumacher + Irvine or Barichello
Hamilton + Rosberg or Bottas

Now it's Verstappen or Perez

I'm just hoping that Perez can do a Rosberg and stick it to his team mate.

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Emilia Romagna Grand Prix in serious doubt this Weekend due to flooding.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/65619222





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Officially cancelled.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/65621373

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Honda to return to F1 as Aston Martin engine partner in 2026.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/65682563

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Hopefully Maxident and Winger Spice will have buggered off by then, then I will return.


I like a few people I speak to think there is something fishy the RB car.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again, using names like that, you are no true F1 fan anyway.

I have no real liking to Max though he is a good driver. But putting names to people like that is just childish.

Why? Because Hamilton isn't winning? Was there something fishy with the Mercedes car when that was always winning?

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No its the fact that 9 teams seem to have gotten it very wrong seems unlikely

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No, you just can't handle Red Bull are winning, that's the problem, you can see that with the childish names. It was only a couple of seasons ago that no one could get close to Mercedes.

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The FIA raise you Austria.

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Yes it was a joke what they did at the end.

So 1200 track limit offences meaning they couldn't police it in time during the race and produce a penalty.

In future they should just change the track limits to include the kerbs, that way atleast the drivers could feel it.

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I stopped watching F1 after Max was gifted the title in 2021, and I don't miss it.
Personally any wheel over the white line should result in times being deleted.
I might go back when MV & CR leave.

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After reading other posts elsewhere someone suggested a 2nd row of sensors further out then there wouldn't be any debate, if it beeps you get a penalty a human wouldn't have to be involved. The first row of sensors is currently used for MotorGP and the reason they don't have a sand trap there is it would be suicide for them.

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They could have a gravel trap instead as the FIA asked for.

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My understanding is the track didn't want it because of MotorGP, but they need something.

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Daniel Ricciardo replaces Nyck de Vries at Alpha Tauri in F1 return and will race from the Hungarian Grand Prix on 23 July.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/66169108

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Lewis gets his first Pole since 2021 for the Hungarian GP, the McLaren upgrade seems the real deal and not just a fluke at the last race at Silverstone and Alpha Romeo is a bit of a surprise.

1) Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes
2) Max Verstappen, Red Bull
3) Lando Norris, McLaren
4) Oscar Piastri, McLaren
5) Zhou Guanyu, Alfa Romeo
6) Charles Leclerc, Ferrari
7) Valtteri Bottas, Alfa Romeo
8) Fernando Alonso, Aston Martin
9) Sergio Perez, Red Bull
10) Nico Hulkenberg, Haas

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Hopefully a good race tomorrow.

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Alas, all the optimism gone in a mere few laps.

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It was great seeing both Red Bulls being knocked out in Q2, there is a good chance of a grid penalty for 2 separate occasions where Max impeded other drivers.

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I laughed so much I nearly peed myself, and hopefully he get a place drop for impeding another driver. But of course maFIA let him off warning, LH would have been given a grid drop, but of course they want him to win every race this year and this plays in to Red Bullies hand.

Oh well, I have just been given Netflix from VM so I be looking at that then

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This will trigger you but......Unfortunately and unbelievably the stewards screwed up.... so no penalty.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/ve...show/10521267/

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What a great finish to the race and a shame Russell screwed up on the last lap but a 4 car super close finish before that was fantastic to see and great none of them were a Red Bull!

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In the grand scheme of things, was it that great? Controlled slow pace is not what you want to see as a F1 fan (though good strategy) and even with both Mercedes flying on fresh tyres, when caught up to the leaders, still couldn't pass.

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It was a boring race apart from the last part which I found exciting and wish it could have gone on another 5 laps.