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Yes vegans can talk i believe.

The covid vaccines don't use eggs.

Each to their own whether its what they eat, or choose to have a vaccine.

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There's an appetite for it - don't forget the country narrowly voted to end freedom of movement within Europe.

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The vaccines have all gone through non-human animal trials as far as I know which would rule them out from being vegan - it's not just about how they're made.

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It's still nearly a month after the first injection before full immunity.
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Given how this government have already played fast and loose with curtailing public freedoms......................who knows.

Already mooted, later denied, but mooted anyway.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/13...y-passport-ont

And not just him, others have suggested it

https://www.cityam.com/anti-vaxxers-...enior-tory-mp/

So I’ll take Gove’s denial of such things the same way I always take it when a politician denies something......................

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Good to have you back on the side of healthy scepticism towards the Government mouthpieces, Pierre.

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I’m a libertarian JF, and have been appalled at the way the police have conducted themselves at times. I don’t have to cite examples because the inter-web is awash with videos of such.

And the “emergency” legislation that was put in through without any parliamentary oversight is what has fuelled it, along with other poor legislation.

I saw one video where the police were questioning one individual because he had a car sticker that said “Covid is fake”. Citing a public order offence, or similar, as it could cause offence/distress . If we’re going down that road, we’re all done for...........

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Seems like sensible “profiling” by police. High likelihood of finding someone not mentally fit to drive, under the influence of alcohol/drugs or who simply doesn’t like authority - perhaps driving untaxed or without insurance.

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The winner of daftest post of the day. :)

oh wait .... you actually believe what you just posted :erm:

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That wont worry them, they are a very tough and strict body.

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The police use similar logic elsewhere. :)

And having attended a police road stop once, along with other authorities, it’s amazing how many chance offences or outstanding warrants you can find.

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Hey, some of us will need certification for our work. I already need hepatitis vaccination certification to visit some customers who are protecting their business and employees.

I would not be surprised if COVID vaccination certification is needed as a condition of entry to some countries in the future or, to turn it around, 'how do we stop dirty foreigners coming over here who might be infected?'.

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For those who are interested, here are the guidelines for COVID vaccination as published in the NHS 'Green Book - Immunisation against infectious disease' handbook - https://assets.publishing.service.go...ne_supply_.pdf

It lists the priority list, what the clinical risk groups are, contraindications, side effects, etc.

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Thanks for the link - very informative

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Chip/trace - not likely needle too fine to do that covertly. Used for some other purpose - possible but not likely.
The PM has already said they don't plan to have CV Visas. How would you prove you have been vaccinated? Don't carry a phone all the time or lost it or stolen or broken?
The plan as detailed makes things simple, if you try to add race into it that gets really complex and not likely to help.

Age is easy to work on but race/economics? You could end up with hundreds of tiers based on age, health, race, deprivation. On the last where do you put the divisions.

With race it's been mooted that the death rates are higher because many work in front line jobs (health care for example), well they are covered in the plan.

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Anyone thinking this vaccine is a highway back to normal needs a reality check.

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Never did - we’ll all have to adapt to a new normal.