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Hugh	20-04-2021 20:06

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iadom

20-04-2021 20:14

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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36077415)

Every cloud has a silver lining for Manu fans then :D

RESULT. :cool:

Chris

20-04-2021 21:48

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I don't see why the courts should get involved with clubs breaking away from their associations. If clubs want to join another association instead, it's up to them.
If the associations want to allow a club to belong to more than one association, that's up to the associations.

There's no role for government here.

And yet, there was.

The government ensured the clubs faced a no-win scenario, simply by floating the prospect of legislation. A potentially significant disruption to the fabric of our cultural heritage has thus been averted - right at the point where such a disruption would have been least welcome.

For a great many people, a Saturday afternoon match played before a roaring capacity crowd will be a major signal that national life is returning to normal. This was the last thing they needed.

El gov has done us a solid here.

1andrew1

20-04-2021 23:09

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Liverpool has now left, as at 10:55pm.

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Liverpool Football Club can confirm that our involvement in proposed plans to form a European Super League has been discontinued.

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1384626759518261251

Stuart

20-04-2021 23:24

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In theory you are partly right. These clubs *are* members of an association and are free to leave that association.

However, whether we like it or not, Football is a major part of UK culture. Although it sometimes seems they aren't bothering, one of the government's many jobs *is* to protect that culture.

1andrew1

20-04-2021 23:36

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All six English clubs have now left.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56823501

Chris

20-04-2021 23:38

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36077438)

Liverpool has now left, as at 10:55pm.

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1384626759518261251

Good.

Despite being under foreign ownership, Liverpool has been very successful at fostering an image of being close to the fans. But Fenway must truly have a tin ear to have thought LFC fans would have applauded this, and once the fans, the players and even Klopp came out against it they really had no choice. To press ahead would have been to needlessly alienate a lot of people.

Carth

20-04-2021 23:40

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There are 2 or 3 big names that resigned from high positions in the European football world so they could be chairmen etc of the new ESL . . . wonder how they feel now ;)

Sephiroth

20-04-2021 23:42

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Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 36077439)

There will be those who might challenge the notion that football is a major part of UK culture. I know what you mean but I don't think it runs that deep.

However, no government has done anything to protect the UK's culture. It is only a matter of time before our culture is submerged by other cultures.

1andrew1

20-04-2021 23:53

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36077443)

There are 2 or 3 big names that resigned from high positions in the European football world so they could be chairmen etc of the new ESL . . . wonder how they feel now ;)

Gutted for them. :D

Who's going to bail out the over-borrowed Real Madrid and Barcelona now that the Super League ruse looks dead in the water?

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They knew Klopp's view on the matter and I'm sure he was not the only one to speak his mind at that club.

I suspect the clubs had varying motives in joining. For Arsenal and Tottenham it must have looked like a passport to Europe whilst for Manchester City it may have been more of a ruse to get more out of the Champions League. And for the over-borrowed Spanish clubs, a financial rescue deal without the embarrassment of calling it that.

Chris

20-04-2021 23:55

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In the specific instance of football, the government has put the World Cup, euros and the FA cup final on the list of designated events to prevent them vanishing behind paywalls. The EU intervened to prevent live league broadcast rights from being sold as a single exclusive package to any one broadcaster on competition grounds. I suspect nobody will be proposing that is reversed now we’re out.

Hugh	21-04-2021 00:23

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36077444)

There will be those who might challenge the notion that football is a major part of UK culture. I know what you mean but I don't think it runs that deep.

However, no government has done anything to protect the UK's culture. It is only a matter of time before our culture is submerged by other cultures.

<cough cough>

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/n...and-s-heritage

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Communities Secretary has announced new laws to protect England’s cultural and historic heritage.

From:Ministry of Housing, Communities & Local Government, The Rt Hon Oliver Dowden CBE MP, and The Rt Hon Robert Jenrick MP

Published:17 January 2021

Or do you mean like our culture was submerged by the Normans?

jfman

21-04-2021 04:01

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Be interesting to see if any American owners walk away.

I’m of the opinion that some saw this as a quick buck - set up new league with new TV deal, no risk of not qualifying, new set of sponsorship deals all pushing up the share price then sell on the “franchise” in 3 to 5 years.

denphone

21-04-2021 04:35

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36077416)

Well lads it was nice to be in a thread where we all shared the same position. :)

:tu:

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Originally Posted by iadom (Post 36077424)

RESULT. :cool:

Something to be certainly cheerful about.:D

Damien

21-04-2021 07:52

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36077444)

There will be those who might challenge the notion that football is a major part of UK culture. I know what you mean but I don't think it runs that deep.

No one can seriously challenge the notion that football is a major part of UK culture. It's self-evidently true. It was a sport invented here. Britain hosts its most famous league and many of the world's most famous teams. It's very well attended across the Premier League and Championship. These clubs are often very important to the communities they are in.

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