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jfman

12-10-2020 20:40

Re: Coronavirus

Fantastic news for “I’ve had a good life” Vince Cable he can now volunteer to get infected by Coronavirus as part of clinical trials.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/12/h...ntl/index.html

This is a win-win for ‘herd immunity’ types they get to both progress herd immunity AND a vaccine trial. I look forward to fantastic demand to participate in the trial.

Mad Max

12-10-2020 20:55

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36053413)

According to the latest figures Coronavirus hospital numbers in England are up 40% over the last week.

I see they are using % figures to scare people now.

nomadking

12-10-2020 21:06

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36053446)

I see they are using % figures to scare people now.

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More concerning though is the number of hospital admissions in England which rose by 40% in a week to 3,665 patients.

Over 1,000 additional hospital admissions sounds so much better.:rolleyes:

jfman

12-10-2020 21:08

Re: Coronavirus

How many weeks of additional thousands of Covid patients do you think the NHS is built to withstand?

Mad Max

12-10-2020 21:20

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36053448)

How many weeks of additional thousands of Covid patients do you think the NHS is built to withstand?

It's looking a lot less than in March/April imo.

papa smurf

12-10-2020 21:30

Re: Coronavirus

How many NHS hospitals are there in the UK?
1,257 hospitals
In addition to this, not all private hospitals are managed by NHS Trusts. The actual number, correct as at September 2019, is that there are 1,257 hospitals in the UK. This number includes the NHS Trust-managed hospitals and the additional private hospitals that are currently in use.

3665 patients into 1257 hospitals = how many to each hospital as an average.

Hugh	12-10-2020 21:32

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36053452)

How many ITU beds?

papa smurf

12-10-2020 21:40

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36053455)

How many ITU beds?

How many patients need one?

mrmistoffelees

12-10-2020 22:13

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36053456)

How many patients need one?

The question should be how many are going to need one in 10-14 days time.

Sephiroth

12-10-2020 22:42

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36053445)

It's a win-win for all those who repudiate Vince Cable's crackpot ideas.

Pierre

12-10-2020 22:47

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36053413)

According to the latest figures Coronavirus hospital numbers in England are up 40% over the last week.

641 - 8th October

462 - 30th September

So an increase of 28%, but an increase all the same, but compared to the peak figure

3,564 - 1st April, only 18% of peak.

Nightingale hospitals on standby?

8th October - 436 on ventilators.

10th April - 3,301 on ventilators. Bearing in mind that during the peak we didn’t out weigh ventilator capacity, so we still have at the very least 7.5 x capacity we are currently using.

Covid patients in hospital 9th October- 3,788

Covid patients in hospital at peak - 21,209 = 5.5 x capacity being used, considering we didn’t use the nightingales, putting them on “standby“ helps fuel a narrative.

Oh and the last one deaths.

Still well below 100, not been above 100 Since July.

The data is there for all.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/healthcare

I’ll wait another week. See what happens.

1andrew1

12-10-2020 23:09

Re: Coronavirus

Following the science in the same way that the car in front is a Toyota and we're on a side road.

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Covid: Sage scientists called for short lockdown weeks ago

The government's scientific advisers called for a short lockdown in England to halt the spread of Covid-19 last month, newly-released documents show.

The experts said an immediate "circuit breaker" was the best way to control cases, at a meeting on 21 September.

Labour said the advice was ignored but No 10 said it took "robust" action.

This is the most worrying bit to me:

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But at the same press conference, England's chief medical officer, Prof Chris Whitty, voiced concerns over the impact of the new measures, saying he was not confident they "would be enough to get on top of" the virus without further local restrictions.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54518002

Mr K	12-10-2020 23:12

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36053452)

You can have as many hospitals, beds and ventilators as you like. If you don't have enough ITU nurses its pointless. A ventilator needs a trained nurse 24/7.

Pierre

12-10-2020 23:27

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36053468)

You can have as many hospitals, beds and ventilators as you like. If you don't have enough ITU nurses its pointless. A ventilator needs a trained nurse 24/7.

And you have evidence that we don’t have enough? Has the number of such nurses dropped dramatically in the last 6 months? We had enough then and we’re nowhere those levels......

Mr K	13-10-2020 07:11

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36053469)

And you have evidence that we don’t have enough? Has the number of such nurses dropped dramatically in the last 6 months? We had enough then and we’re nowhere those levels......

The evidence that we were begging for staff to come out of retirement to help. We can't rely on that forever, its going to take more than a bit of a clap.

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