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alanbjames 03-03-2021 22:10

Wifi 6 Backward Compatible or not?
 
Is wifi6 Backward Compatible with older devices?

The reason i ask, a friend is thinking of getting a new router as his is no longer supported the manufacturer and hes chosen this....

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-...nw-11r-as.html


The reason hes gone with wifi 6 is for future proofing.

GrimUpNorth 03-03-2021 22:54

Re: Wifi 6 Backward Compatible or not?
 
If you scroll down the page you linked to the specification section there's a whole plethora of supported network standards to choose from.

Dude111 04-03-2021 06:36

Dont ya hate it when they do that???

Its like they are trying to force people to "new" everything.... (Nothing older will work)

Pathetic......

downquark1 04-03-2021 11:17

Re: Wifi 6 Backward Compatible or not?
 
It should be backwards compatible with (5GHz a/n/ac)

I don't think it is exactly compatible with (2.4GHz b/g/n) but usually the router lets you set up an old style network next to the modern one.

pip08456 04-03-2021 14:08

Re: Wifi 6 Backward Compatible or not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36072946)
It should be backwards compatible with (5GHz a/n/ac)

I don't think it is exactly compatible with (2.4GHz b/g/n) but usually the router lets you set up an old style network next to the modern one.

You thought wrong.

Data Rates - 802.11a : 6,9,12,18,24,36,48,54 Mbps
802.11b : 1, 2, 5.5, 11 Mbps
802.11g : 6,9,12,18,24,36,48,54 Mbps
802.11n : up to 300 Mbps
802.11n (1024 QAM) : up to 500 Mbps
802.11ac (1024 QAM) : up to 4333 Mbps
802.11ax (2.4GHz) : up to 574 Mbps
802.11ax (5GHz) : up to 4804 Mbps

alanbjames 04-03-2021 14:17

Re: Wifi 6 Backward Compatible or not?
 
What are peoples views\experiences with TP Link routers?

pip08456 04-03-2021 14:25

Re: Wifi 6 Backward Compatible or not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 36072980)
What are peoples views\experiences with TP Link routers?

They work, many people use them.

Carth 04-03-2021 14:38

Re: Wifi 6 Backward Compatible or not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 36072980)
What are peoples views\experiences with TP Link routers?

Had one for years, no real issues.
Wireless drops out occasionally, sorted with a quick reboot.
Only 2.4 GHz so possibly just can't handle everything currently thrown at it :D

BenMcr 04-03-2021 14:56

Re: Wifi 6 Backward Compatible or not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36072977)
You thought wrong.

Data Rates - 802.11a : 6,9,12,18,24,36,48,54 Mbps
802.11b : 1, 2, 5.5, 11 Mbps
802.11g : 6,9,12,18,24,36,48,54 Mbps
802.11n : up to 300 Mbps
802.11n (1024 QAM) : up to 500 Mbps
802.11ac (1024 QAM) : up to 4333 Mbps
802.11ax (2.4GHz) : up to 574 Mbps
802.11ax (5GHz) : up to 4804 Mbps

As with anything Wireless those speeds depend on the router

https://www.arubanetworks.com/assets...de_80211ax.pdf

downquark1 04-03-2021 15:01

Re: Wifi 6 Backward Compatible or not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36072977)
You thought wrong.

Data Rates - 802.11a : 6,9,12,18,24,36,48,54 Mbps
802.11b : 1, 2, 5.5, 11 Mbps
802.11g : 6,9,12,18,24,36,48,54 Mbps
802.11n : up to 300 Mbps
802.11n (1024 QAM) : up to 500 Mbps
802.11ac (1024 QAM) : up to 4333 Mbps
802.11ax (2.4GHz) : up to 574 Mbps
802.11ax (5GHz) : up to 4804 Mbps

OK that's strange. I'm not on wifi 6, but I have to keep a separate (2.4GHz b/g/n) radio for things as old as my ps3.

Qtx 04-03-2021 18:13

Re: Wifi 6 Backward Compatible or not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36072987)
OK that's strange. I'm not on wifi 6, but I have to keep a separate (2.4GHz b/g/n) radio for things as old as my ps3.

The PS3 doesn't have 5GHz wifi, so you need the 2.4Ghz for it. Its 802.11g. 5GHz wasn't introduced until 802.11n.

Wifi 6 is 802.11ax.

Most 802.11 routers should be backwards compatible but there are a few niggly issues. Some 2.4Ghz devices have problems connecting when you only have one wifi name for both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz, so creating 2 wifi networks, one for each can help.

Also the mode a router runs can cause problems for specific devices but generally new routers are backwards compatible and revert down to the spec of whatever is connected to them. So Wifi 6 devices will benefit from the way it handles many wifi connections while the older devices wont directly, but could indirectly if the wifi 6 device is using a different band.

I paid £65 for a global version of Xiaomi Mi AIoT AX3600 wifi 6 router which should be turning up any day. Looking forward to testing that out and more progress on the WRT front.

GrimUpNorth 04-03-2021 21:05

Re: Wifi 6 Backward Compatible or not?
 
If you want a cheap and cheerful WiFi 6 router then the Honor 3 might be one to consider - a friend has one and loves it. Just noticed it's on offer at £29.99 but unsurprisingly out of stock!

BenMcr 04-03-2021 23:15

Re: Wifi 6 Backward Compatible or not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36073062)
If you want a cheap and cheerful WiFi 6 router then the Honor 3 might be one to consider - a friend has one and loves it. Just noticed it's on offer at £29.99 but unsurprisingly out of stock!

It seems to be the same device as this version which is available for £50

https://consumer.huawei.com/uk/smart...quad-core/buy/

alanbjames 05-03-2021 01:52

Re: Wifi 6 Backward Compatible or not?
 
He doesnt want something cheap and cheerful. He wants something that wiill work and is fast and reliable yet wont break the bank.

mrmistoffelees 10-03-2021 14:03

Re: Wifi 6 Backward Compatible or not?
 
Also worth remembering there's only a limited amount of devices that support connecting at WiFi 6 at the moment


A wifi 5 standard router should suffice most individuals, unless you're looking to future proof


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