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Pierre 31-03-2022 21:25

Moon Knight
 
Not a Marvel Character I knew anything about. Not sure if it’s stand alone or will tie in, but knowing Marvel will almost tie in somehow with the MCU.

It had a Venom vibe going on.

It was an OK introduction somebody brand new, let's see how it goes.

General Maximus 01-04-2022 00:50

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Ne pas impresado

Hugh 01-04-2022 11:58

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36117919)
Ne pas impresado

"not printed"?

General Maximus 01-04-2022 12:02

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Not impressed :rolleyes:

Hugh 01-04-2022 12:24

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36117950)
Not impressed :rolleyes:

No impresionado (Spanish) or

pas impressionné (French)

General Maximus 01-04-2022 12:59

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I know, it was faux french/spanish/make it up everyone will understand statement

Hugh 01-04-2022 13:23

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Obviously not... ;)

It just didn't have a "reality factor"...

General Maximus 01-04-2022 15:05

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36117955)
It just didn't have a "reality factor"...

Realism factor :p:

Paul 01-04-2022 19:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36117955)
It just didn't have a "reality factor"...

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36117960)
Realism factor :p:

Both/Either.

I lost interest before the first episode had finished, I wont bother with it further.

General Maximus 01-04-2022 20:07

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36117971)
I lost interest before the first episode had finished.

Yeah. They got the pacing wrong and completely over estimated the audiences patience for character discovery. It is only a 6 episode season and they haven't established how he has got his powers and who the other personalities are etc. If they continue to focus on the present day stuff (Ethan Hawke has already found him in the museum) and skirt over the xharacter establishment and richer story then it is going to be completely hollow.

Pierre 01-04-2022 20:59

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36117971)
I lost interest before the first episode had finished, I wont bother with it further.

I’ve been hasty before so I’ll stick with it for a few weeks and let you know if it improves.

Chris 01-04-2022 22:54

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Watched it tonight. Enjoyed it muchly. Loved Isaacs’ portrayal of hopeless Steven. Looking forward to the next part.

General Maximus 02-04-2022 01:55

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36117980)
Loved Isaacs’ portrayal of hopeless Steven.

but what does it all mean? Who are the other voices? Why has he got other voices? If he is such a pathetic and weak mind/personality why have the other personalities got to ask him for control and why can't they just take it for themselves?

These are things they should have dedicated the first episode too and I am worried that we arent going to these answers and they are just going to plough forwards with the Ethan Hawke story to maintain the pace and action element of the series and leave out all the story and depth.

Paul 02-04-2022 03:00

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36117976)
I’ve been hasty before so I’ll stick with it for a few weeks and let you know if it improves.

I'll be interested to hear, but I'm not really overly bothered.
I already have plenty to watch without forcing myself to try and like this.
Maybe its another one of these where you need to know the charecter already to have a clue what was going on.
After 25 or so minutes of it I was just confused and bored, I lost interest and started doing other things while it was on in the background.

Chris 02-04-2022 11:30

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36117984)
but what does it all mean? Who are the other voices? Why has he got other voices? If he is such a pathetic and weak mind/personality why have the other personalities got to ask him for control and why can't they just take it for themselves?

Depression and anxiety are symptoms of dissociative identity disorder, not its cause or its enabler. So far their portrayal of Steven has a high realism factor.

The rest of it sounds to me like a description of a very good, serialised mystery fantasy/drama. I don’t want all the answers in part one. I want the questions that pile on the mystery.

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These are things they should have dedicated the first episode too and I am worried that we arent going to these answers and they are just going to plough forwards with the Ethan Hawke story to maintain the pace and action element of the series and leave out all the story and depth.
TV isn’t meant to make you anxious. If this is the case I’d recommend avoiding weekly drop shows until all eps are out, then you can binge them.

admars 02-04-2022 21:36

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Interesting, enjoyed it, don't think it matters I haven't seen any of the films/tv shows since Guardians 1, or Deadpool! Nice to see a comic book film/tv show without having any knowledge of the character.

Good to see the best pilot in the resistance again :)

General Maximus 02-04-2022 21:45

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Originally Posted by admars (Post 36118008)
Good to see the best pilot in the resistance again :)

You should watch Dune

Pierre 06-04-2022 22:24

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Ep 2, very enjoyable, still on a journey understanding the character, and the story. But I’m signed up for Ep 3!

General Maximus 07-04-2022 01:13

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God that was painful. I am not going to watch anymore.

admars 07-04-2022 21:17

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lol, i really enjoyed it, I think you're missing the point, we are exploring the character, finding out about him as he does, which is being done episodically.

would you rather another first 20mins, childhood trauma, loved one is killed, person blames themselves becomes vigilante, then gets the baddie, all wrapped up in 2 hrs?

I assume you've written your review slagging off Obi Wan, and are ready to hit post?

General Maximus 07-04-2022 21:27

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Originally Posted by admars (Post 36118421)
I assume you've written your review slagging off Obi Wan, and are ready to hit post?

Not yet. I am cautiously optimistic given the tone and feel of the trailer; the choice of music plus Ewan McGregor's performance, but that being said, i felt the same about Boba Fett and look how that turned out.

Hugh 07-04-2022 21:32

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36118422)
Not yet. I am cautiously optimistic given the tone and feel of the trailer; the choice of music plus Ewan McGregor's performance, but that being said, i felt the same about Boba Fett and look how that turned out.

How that turned out was that almost everyone except you enjoyed it…

Paul 08-04-2022 13:37

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36118424)
How that turned out was that almost everyone except you enjoyed it…

:D

Pierre 14-04-2022 19:32

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Still good and getting better.

cimt 14-04-2022 23:06

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Yeah it was a massive improvement. Interested to see where it goes

General Maximus 14-04-2022 23:13

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Originally Posted by cimt (Post 36119201)
Yeah it was a massive improvement

I would hope so considering you are now half way through the season

Pierre 21-04-2022 08:01

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Watched an episode of “Raiders of the Mummy Returns” last night.

Pierre 28-04-2022 09:34

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Well last nights was a weird one, it was all backstory.

General Maximus 28-04-2022 10:06

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36120339)
Well last nights was a weird one, it was all backstory.

and yet it was the penultimate episode of the season :scratch: A bit late if you ask me and should have been put into episodes one and two. Backwards story telling.

Mick 28-04-2022 14:08

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I found last nights episode utterly boring and I said so to whom I was watching it with. I will still watch it, but the back story was too heavy.

Pierre 28-04-2022 14:25

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I can only assume that series 2 is already greenlit, or he’s going to turn up in a future movie as they have invested a lot of time in fleshing him out. Really there’s been very little of the actual “Moon Knight” in it so far.

General Maximus 28-04-2022 14:52

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So you are presumably going to end up with a first season (more of a mini series) of poor story telling, a weak character and a super hero that you haven't really seen even though they have had the opportunity to plan and develop a fully fleshed out character to establish in the first season? :scratch:

Doesn't sound like a particularly good series to me.

Paul 28-04-2022 16:01

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Nothing Ive read or heard about it in the last few weeks makes me regret giving up on it after episode 1.

General Maximus 28-04-2022 16:16

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Me too. I gave up after ep 2. After all the chastising i get i am waiting for someone to say "do you know Max, you were right".

Hugh 28-04-2022 16:46

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36120400)
Me too. I gave up after ep 2. After all the chastising i get i am waiting for someone to say "do you know Max, you were right".

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General Maximus 28-04-2022 19:48

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I did not know we could embed gifs. You have no idea how many times I have wanted to do it.

Chris 29-04-2022 22:47

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Well I’m really enjoying it. Dissociative personality disorder is at the heart of this story and that by its nature is confusing. Simply laying it all out in the first episode would have been a missed opportunity and might have trivialised it.

This week’s episode explored the confusion of the sufferer and presented multiple realities, each of which seemed plausible while we were in them. Cleverly, by introducing us to Steven first, when it is finally confirmed that it is he, and not Mark, that’s the alter-ego, the writers have left us struggling with the idea that this character we’ve been following for weeks now isn’t “real”.

A couple of throwaway lines mid-episode about planes of existence and untethered consciousness have likely also left a pathway open into the multiverse which seems to be at the heart of MCU phase 4.

I’m looking forward to next week.

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36120400)
Me too. I gave up after ep 2. After all the chastising i get i am waiting for someone to say "do you know Max, you were right".

Well you won’t be hearing it from me.

admars 30-04-2022 08:29

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I agree, it's a refreshing change to start to learn about the character as he starts to learn about himself, rather than standard vigilante origin story, and yes, the twist was a nice touch, about who is "real".

What I find most confusing about it, is why someone who doesn't like it continues to show so much interest in it?

General Maximus 30-04-2022 09:03

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Originally Posted by admars (Post 36120586)
What I find most confusing about it, is why someone who doesn't like it continues to show so much interest in it?

Because when other people start moaning as well i like to prove a point that i was right to start off with :D

Chris 30-04-2022 09:39

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36120591)
Because when other people start moaning as well i like to prove a point that i was right to start off with :D

It doesn’t mean you’re right … it just means you’re not the only one who always orders the egg and chips ;)

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Originally Posted by admars (Post 36120586)
I agree, it's a refreshing change to start to learn about the character as he starts to learn about himself, rather than standard vigilante origin story, and yes, the twist was a nice touch, about who is "real".

What I find most confusing about it, is why someone who doesn't like it continues to show so much interest in it?

They’ve played a blinder, really. We meet Steven first, and when we meet Mark he’s the face in the mirror who seems violent and a bit crazy and demands control of the body. Steven is English and living in London while Mark is American. We struggle with the idea that Steven isn’t real because he has been framed as real throughout the whole story. Then in the latest episode the psychiatric ward is the hallucination, scenes in an American home are all just disjointed memory and ancient Egyptian mythology - in this case Taweret on a boat in the desert - is their here-and-now reality. They made us care about Steven, be suspicious of Mark and suffer the confusion of trying to separate reality from fantasy. Altogether an utterly different approach to what you normally get when the condition traditionally called schizophrenia is tackled in film and TV, where the whole thing is typically played either for laughs (e.g. Me, Myself and Irene) or lazily portrays the emerging personality as strange or violent.

cimt 04-05-2022 12:53

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I enjoyed it me. I think it may of worked better as a movie or even just 3 episodes. It could of told the same story in less time without losing anything important. I can certainly see a second season or an appearance in another MCU property coming though.

General Maximus 04-05-2022 14:40

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I am sure i read somewhere it was a standalone series and there would only be these 6 eps. I think the showrunners are hoping the now established character gets incorporated into the MCU.

pip08456 04-05-2022 14:44

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36121069)
I am sure i read somewhere it was a standalone series and there would only be these 6 eps. I think the showrunners are hoping the now established character gets incorporated into the MCU.

It was originally slated as a Miniseries so I doubt there will be a season 2.

General Maximus 04-05-2022 14:56

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Yeah, i have just been looking into it. Oscar Isaac signed a 6 episode contract which is now up. I can't remember a time when a tv series and actors were out of contract and the network has gone back and made them sign new contracts. Not for a series i have watched anyway. $$$$$$

Paul 04-05-2022 19:25

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36121075)
I can't remember a time when a tv series and actors were out of contract and the network has gone back and made them sign new contracts. Not for a series i have watched anyway.

Lucifer.

General Maximus 04-05-2022 19:49

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Never seen it

Pierre 04-05-2022 20:38

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Well it was enjoyable, I won’t pretend to fully understand the end credit sequence, although I have my opinion.

If it doesn’t go anywhere after this, it would be a waste as both alter egos worked well in the battle sequence and together.

I don’t see how you work him into a movie though.

The whole Gods of Egypt superhero avatar concept though is a good one, that could carry a movie potentially.

General Maximus 04-05-2022 20:48

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36121137)
I won’t pretend to fully understand the end credit sequence

all I have heard is that they have introduced a new third personality

Pierre 04-05-2022 23:08

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36121138)
all I have heard is that they have introduced a new third personality

Yes, that seems to be the case. But if they are not going to extend the character beyond this, I don’t see the point.

At the end they managed to make Mark and Steven interchangeable and entertainingly so.

I’m open, but don’t see the point …….at this time.

General Maximus 04-05-2022 23:13

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He might not get his own standalone movie but I am pretty confident he'll get incorporated into the MCU in one of the Avengers films or as one of the secondary crossover characters in one of the standalone movies.

General Maximus 05-05-2022 02:05

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the entire promotional tour for “Moon Knight” had the two major studios referring to the show as a “limited series,” with the presumption this would be a standalone television outing for the Marvel Comics character. However, on Monday, Marvel’s official Twitter page shared the trailer for today’s final episode, referring to it as “the epic series finale,” but the tweet was taken down and 14 minutes later corrected to “season finale.” The tweet indicates a possibility for a second season for the Oscar Isaac starring vehicle, but no official plans have been shared.


https://variety.com/2022/awards/news...el-1235258241/

cimt 05-05-2022 10:27

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There's still more story to tell. Marc and Steven may be in sync, but they don't know about Jake yet.

Jaymoss 05-05-2022 12:15

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36121148)
Yes, that seems to be the case. But if they are not going to extend the character beyond this, I don’t see the point.

At the end they managed to make Mark and Steven interchangeable and entertainingly so.

I’m open, but don’t see the point …….at this time.

the third personality was in the series previous to the end sequence as both Mark and Steven said it was not them when the killed a group quite early on only we did not see it but the clues were there

Pierre 05-05-2022 13:16

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36121209)
the third personality was in the series previous to the end sequence as both Mark and Steven said it was not them when the killed a group quite early on only we did not see it but the clues were there

Yes! you are quite correct. I forgot about that bit. I wonder what his costume will look like?


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